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hey everyone welcome to 204 hub live

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so as you might have noticed today's

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guest is going to be

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thomas fusco he's uh i consider him a

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great friend of mine

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and although i haven't seen him in six

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no we had we met at a conference about

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six years ago and

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we just had a great time and he has a

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very interesting book out

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and interesting subject to talk about so

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we're gonna definitely get into that so

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uh first things first

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i would like to uh cover some things

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we're as of today we

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are a week out of the ozark mountain

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virtual conference

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and so you uh you can still go to the

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website

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and let me switch this over for you

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you can still go to the website and get

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the tickets

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we're just going to be george nori

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whitley strieber mary rodwell

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and many others on their their

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information is right on the site

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you can check it out when you go to the

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website

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ufoconference.com

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and on the very front page you'll see a

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register button

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you can simply click on that and it

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should take you to

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this registration page and the the

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conference over the weekend so saturday

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and sunday

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and uh yeah we hope you you know you

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join us

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it's very uh very versatile in the sense

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that you can share your audio and video

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to ask the

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the speakers a question and you can also

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with the people that are watching it

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with you so it could be a friend of

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or somebody you you don't know very well

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but you can at least approach them and

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say hello

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so anyway that's regarding that the

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other part

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i wanted to cover is it's about

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um i get emails often from different

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that basically they ask me for some kind

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of promotions which i don't do

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or tell me about their channel and

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whatnot and before i didn't necessarily

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to to give them a shout out and at the

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kind of hesitant because i wanted to

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you know that i want to endorse somebody

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who is you know

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that i'm doing and i'm still

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not wondering wanting to do that but uh

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looks you know very um reasonable and

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they have the information put together

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now of course if there's something there

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that i wasn't aware of before that

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people say hey did you know about this

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time if anything

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take this with a just a curiosity of hey

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check this out if you like it great if

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not you know i can't vouch for them

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but anyway so what i'm specifically

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this gentleman i believe based on the

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he's in canada and the channel is called

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the vast experience

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so check it out he has some videos that

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we recorded about ufos and they look

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pretty neat

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so again check it out i'm not affiliated

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i just thought it would be something

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so again the channel is vast experience

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let's see here

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all right so as always please keep in

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to use the three stars

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before you ask a question so that way it

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easily at me and so that way i

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don't have to kind of sift through

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trying to figure out if you're talking

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to somebody else in chat or me

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all right let's let's get this going

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so without without any further ado

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let's bring in thomas thomas how are you

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hey i'm doing great adnan great to

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talk to you again awesome oh i'm

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so uh you you should be getting him loud

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and so i hope you don't mind i slowly

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slipped my mind to say something about

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but yeah thomas so i what i always like

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what it is that you do well

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this kind of alternative field um

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several profound what you might call

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parapsychological experiences

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model of reality uh that i was taught at

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rather than you know pursuing

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anything practitional or experiential

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intellectual aspect of it

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which essentially is a question you know

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how can supernatural events occur in the

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many years of research to come up with a

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theoretical model that would not only be

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the people an idea what it is that

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a phenomenon that currently

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and scientifically meaningful than just

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uh you know which are generally

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terms that indicate that the speaker has

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what they're talking about uh so this is

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absolutely um and and it takes a uh

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to give a little bit of a background

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that's a term oftentimes in science

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terms will be used that are also used in

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general conversation in the general

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language

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but when they're used scientifically

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something a little bit different uh than

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uh conversation so uh for example

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according to the model of the universe

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that we have that we can understand

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excuse me if you had a piece of paper

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hand

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the thing that would cause that piece of

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paper to move

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is the force of your hand and the fossa

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and your hand would be local to

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or connected to the paper

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that's local causality that's normal

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so even for example in a radio broadcast

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you could be listening to a radio but

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the radio is receiving a an

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electromagnetic wave

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that has modulations on it

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uh that is coming from a broadcasting

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station a tower

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so the electromagnet magnetic wave

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is local to the broadcast

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tower and then it's

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because it's physically connected it's

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physically in contact with the radio

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so here we have local causality

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uh what makes something

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supernatural or paranormal

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and if i can interject this was one of

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the first things

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admin that i had to determine

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in my research was how can we come up

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with a

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scientifically meaningful

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definition for what would be paranormal

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or supernatural

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and that what we can what i came up with

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is that what makes something

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paranormal or supernatural is that

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the effect is non-local it is not

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and in that way we got rid of some of

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the

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normally some sort of a catch-all basket

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and everything

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weird people put in it uh

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this is something that is very

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meaningful uh

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scientifically so for example if the

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piece of paper

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lifted off the table all by itself

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that would be non-local causality

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give you another example let's say for

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example if we're talking about the field

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of paranormal phenomena

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if you were in a dark room

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and you saw the faint image

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of a person who was standing in there

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was standing in the room with you but

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it's so dark you can barely see the

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person

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based on the reflection of the ambient

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light

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off of their off of their body

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that would be normal that would be local

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causality

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or locality as they say because

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the ambient light is local to the body

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and the body is local to the light waves

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that are reaching your eye

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and you know uh being seen in

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in your retina and all that everything's

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local it's connected

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but if we saw what they call an

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apparition

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which would have the same kind of an

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appearance

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but there's nobody standing there

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that's non-locality because

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the reflected image that you're seeing

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as a person

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is not coming off of a physical person

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there is no physical person there

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so that's the first

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that's the first piece of critical

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understanding

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the second piece of critical

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understanding which is so

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often overlooked even by mainstream

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physics let alone in the alternative

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studies like paranormal phenomena

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like ufology is the concept of

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information i can't stress how

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important that is um

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back and again this is a term that

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is used a little bit different

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scientifically

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than it is in common conversation

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uh for many years most people admin and

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they remember being taught in school

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the mass energy conservation laws

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uh that matter and energy can neither be

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created nor

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destroyed i think people will remember

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that till the day they die

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because that's what they were taught

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repeatedly in school

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but over the last uh uh especially last

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couple decades

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uh we also have an extension of that

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which is the conservation laws of

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information and those laws state that

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the

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information from which mass and energy

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is assembled and designed the

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information itself

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and we don't talk about this concept of

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information very often

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but it's vitally critical

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so for example in our in our

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instance with seeing the reflection

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of a real person that kind of looks like

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an apparition because it's dark but

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but a person is actually there we are

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seeing

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light waves that are carrying the

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information

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about the geometry of that person

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that we're seeing the faint image of

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when we see the apparition

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there is no body providing the

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information

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manifesting it's still materializing

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so that we see an image of a person when

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a person isn't there

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the information the idea the concept of

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information

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because now we can unlock our

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thinking and saying okay we are seeing a

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collection of information

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we're seeing that information

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materialize

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but there is no physical source

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that would be the storage house for that

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information

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with extreme fidelity

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so that it can be materialized

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as a as an image of a person

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but it would also have to come from a

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place where

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the mechanism by which information

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could be materialized is at work

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so if there's nothing in local space

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that has that kind of

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mechanism that can store it

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play it back with incredible fidelity

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so much so so much

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so materialized that the ambient light

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can actually reflect off of the

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then that leads us to a a an inescapable

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conclusion

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is that the information is not being

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stored

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locally in the physical universe

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the information is coming from outside

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the physical

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and manifesting itself

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as a materialized collection of data

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in the universe in the physical universe

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that those two ideas together

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opens up the whole world

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and in the understanding

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and the attempt in the effort to

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understand

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so thomas you're you're making me have

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00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,600
to go two separate directions with this

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and it's difficult trying to figure out

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00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,559
which way to go

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00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,320
i figured i'll stick to the larger

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picture once and then hopefully you'll

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fill in as much detail as you possibly

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can

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00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,600
so sure what is the point then of these

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00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:26,880
of this separation

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00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:29,919
you know it's like why have this

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00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:34,720
this um i guess non-local

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information or direction that then has

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an effect

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physical why can't it all just

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be exist on on one level then to where

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you just see who's doing what when and

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oh i think i understand what you're

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saying

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you know it's kind of like the way that

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reality is put together

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um give you an example and here's one of

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the things that

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00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,880
this this line of thinking admin

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00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:08,880
it causes us to consider things that

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we've never even connected before

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but we know about but we just haven't

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connected them with various phenomena

486
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,360
let's take for example the big bang

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now everybody knows what the big bang is

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it's

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what physicists say brought the universe

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into being

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it started out with a what they call a

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quantum

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singularity infinitely dense

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and infinitely small now

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singularity means there's only a single

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coordinate to describe it it's not

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physical

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defined by four coordinates

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three spatial and one temporal

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so you have height width depth and time

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it's a four dimensional physical reality

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but a singularity only has a single

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dimension and again adnan this is one of

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these terms

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00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,520
uh singularity that's been used so much

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00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:17,600
in common language in the wrong way that

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00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,399
people

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00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,640
don't understand the actual mathematical

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00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,399
or scientific

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uh meaning it means that there's a

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single coordinate

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and just the idea that scientists call

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it infinitely dense and

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infinitely small means that it can't be

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physical either because there is no

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value of infinity

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in the physical uh

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everything is measurable and if isn't an

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00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:48,720
infinity is immeasurable

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00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:53,840
so from that quantum singularity

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emerged the universe they called the big

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bang it exploded

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and one of the things that we do know

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is that the universe assembled itself in

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a very orderly way

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uh for example we didn't have a a

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00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,080
situation where

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um one neutron

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for example that particles or

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00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,080
elements of the creation began to try to

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assemble itself and disassemble itself

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at random until it finally came up with

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a

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universe

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at the same time according to the exact

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same design and model which

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means that the information that went

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in to their formation in the early

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universe

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the information that

541
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neutrinos and other elementary particles

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00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,840
were designed after

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00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,000
even the fabric of space-time itself the

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00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,080
geometry of space-time

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all that information was programmed into

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that singularity

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so when to ask

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00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,200
you know to ask why can't we see what's

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00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,279
going on on the other side

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00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:35,840
and why does it have to be this way it's

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00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,840
just the way the universe is put

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00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:40,000
together

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00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:43,919
so here we have once understanding this

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00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,640
idea about

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00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,120
information and non-locality we can

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00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:49,679
actually make the connection

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00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,919
that paranormal phenomena very much

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00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:55,360
behaves

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00:30:02,870 --> 00:29:58,720
and the mechanics behind it seemed

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00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,880
to reflect

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00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:04,720
the very process that brought the

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00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,080
universe into being

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00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,440
so there's a reason why we can't see

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00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:13,760
what's on that other side so to speak

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00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:16,960
because it's not physical what we do

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00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:20,399
see is when it becomes physical

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00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,720
when the information materializes

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00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,320
uh just like it did in the early

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universe

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00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:31,200
and of course adnan then that leaps

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leaves us

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00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:37,120
uh uh uh brings us to the next leap

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00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:41,120
is that if this is the case

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then the singularity is still

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00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,080
there that it didn't just dissolve into

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00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:50,080
the universe

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00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,360
from that singularity

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00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,600
which would explain why the universe is

579
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:01,760
expanding

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00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:05,120
whereas the conventional

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00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,840
physics the materialistic physics has

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00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,799
not

583
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,679
been able to explain why the universe is

584
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:17,509
so when we look at it this way that

585
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,799
the universe is still emerging from the

586
00:31:24,029 --> 00:31:22,000
singularity

587
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,039
the information in it is still

588
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:26,880
materializing

589
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,679
uh not only does it explain certain

590
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:31,200
things that are still a mystery in

591
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:32,480
physics

592
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:36,480
but it can explain why paranormal events

593
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:37,919
so to speak

594
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:40,559
where you have these non-local effects

595
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:43,640
that are measurable and observed

596
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:47,279
materialize out of nowhere literally

597
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,399
and then they dematerialize again

598
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:52,399
from information it isn't stored in the

599
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,070
so that's kind of my

600
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,159
way of explaining what i think you were

601
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:04,080
asking about i hope that addresses what

602
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,909
it does so which leads me into the next

603
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:11,039
question

604
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,080
you know generally not all but some

605
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:16,240
science scientists stay away from the

606
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,200
big g word

607
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:19,519
you know and based on how what you're

608
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,480
describing

609
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:23,840
would you go as far as saying that

610
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,960
there is a deliberate creation behind

611
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,559
this or do you still

612
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:30,240
think like that some of the scientists

613
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,919
say well it just all kind of

614
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,840
accidentally came into being

615
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,399
yeah it all kind of happened by itself

616
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:38,080
you know

617
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,120
um well

618
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:43,200
you're right adnan and here's what the

619
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:44,240
implication is

620
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:47,519
and you're right that

621
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:51,039
for a lot of physicists it's like

622
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:55,519
the old maps that they used to draw

623
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:58,880
16 1700s even before where they showed

624
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,559
you the edge of the world where the sea

625
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:02,720
serpents were

626
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,559
and you know here be monsters and if you

627
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:08,720
if you sailed too far you would fall off

628
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,279
the edge of the world

629
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:13,440
this is why physicists like to confine

630
00:33:17,950 --> 00:33:14,799
themselves to

631
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,960
what is physical uh because the

632
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:20,080
implications

633
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,120
uh they don't really you know

634
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:27,120
they don't really like the implications

635
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,159
you're right

636
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,960
give you another example and again adam

637
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:32,799
what you'll notice in my work

638
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,279
is that i'll take known principles

639
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,200
that are established in the scientific

640
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:40,399
community

641
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:43,519
and just apply them in ways that they

642
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:52,070
giving example let's talk about systems

643
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:55,440
um let's say for example

644
00:34:02,230 --> 00:33:58,880
we we take a system uh uh

645
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,240
let's say it's it's like a pond

646
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:05,360
in a you know in a field or in a wood

647
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,880
somewhere there's a pond

648
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,960
that's an ecosystem that's what we call

649
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,159
it or

650
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:13,119
even when i mentioned that you know i

651
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:13,679
like to

652
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:17,200
talk about a 57 chevy

653
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:21,040
57 chevy is also a system

654
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:29,990
talk about the principles as to how it's

655
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,520
put together

656
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:34,960
and how it operates

657
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:45,510
and those subsystems can often

658
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,240
grow in complexity if you take a uh

659
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:53,760
again if you talk about a pond

660
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:56,879
uh and you start thinking about all the

661
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,680
sus subsystems that derive from that

662
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:00,560
pond

663
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:04,560
you know the microbes the fish uh

664
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,920
you know plants there bird can come and

665
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:10,160
uh you know defecate and the seeds are

666
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:11,359
in it and then

667
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:14,880
the plants start growing you can

668
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:19,599
grow in great complexity with subsystems

669
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:22,960
but here's the key adnan that a

670
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,320
subsystem will

671
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,760
never behave in a way that is

672
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:30,880
contrary to or

673
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:34,880
outside of the laws

674
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:39,680
and principles that govern the system

675
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,079
which gave rise to the subsystems

676
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:47,520
for example take the 57 chevy

677
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:50,480
you could define that system you can

678
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,280
classify

679
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:53,920
you could define it you can explain the

680
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,320
principles

681
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,400
by which it's put together and by and

682
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,280
and the way it behaves

683
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:04,480
but everything that is in that car

684
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,520
will never be contrary to the laws and

685
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,359
principles that govern the system that

686
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:11,599
defines it

687
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:14,640
for example you could not

688
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:17,920
fly that 57 chevy

689
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,400
to pluto that would be outside

690
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:24,240
of the laws and principles that govern

691
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:27,040
this system which defines that 57

692
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:30,640
chevy would never be outside of it

693
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,440
again here's another extreme example

694
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:35,920
that i like to use

695
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,839
let's say you're you're you know you're

696
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:39,839
putting your thanksgiving turkey in the

697
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,160
oven for the holiday

698
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,079
well you're not gonna open that oven

699
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,160
four hours later and find a wankel

700
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,950
you're gonna find a turkey that you put

701
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:52,240
in

702
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,000
that established

703
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:04,960
and define the system that we're

704
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,520
considering

705
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,079
and you remember i i told you uh before

706
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,760
the interview it says sometimes you have

707
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,680
to explain things

708
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:16,079
in a way to give a background so you can

709
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:24,150
the universe is a system

710
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,000
now this is crazy people have really

711
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,000
you know really blew their minds when

712
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,240
they thought about what i'm saying here

713
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:34,560
of course it's established principle

714
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:37,200
just never applied it this way

715
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:40,960
the universe is a system that means

716
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:44,560
everything that developed in it

717
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,160
is a sub-system of the universe

718
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,119
the fabric of space-time is a sub-system

719
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,880
of the laws and principles that govern

720
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,079
the universe

721
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,720
and we know now that the laws and

722
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,920
principles

723
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,160
are universal throughout the universe we

724
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,079
didn't know that before

725
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,839
i remember when i first started going to

726
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,920
school they weren't sure

727
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,839
whether different laws of physics

728
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,000
applied elsewhere in the universe

729
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:14,960
now we're very confident that the laws

730
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:18,079
of physics are universal

731
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:22,720
so the formation of gravity

732
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:25,760
is a subsystem of the universe

733
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:28,400
uh the formation of stars and planets

734
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,599
and galaxies

735
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:32,320
these are all subsystems of the main

736
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:33,680
system

737
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,160
which is the universe we're still

738
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,200
discovering the laws and principles

739
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:42,400
that govern the universe but all of the

740
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,400
subsystems that it gives rise to

741
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,359
you know atomic particles name it

742
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:50,640
whatever it is

743
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:53,920
all of those work behave

744
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,359
in a way that is consistent with

745
00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,359
the laws and principles that govern the

746
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:02,079
universe at large

747
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,760
none of these things are contrary to the

748
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,079
laws of the universe

749
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,200
and none of the content in the universe

750
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,480
transcends the universe

751
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,800
in other words it doesn't go outside of

752
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:18,880
the laws and principles to cover

753
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:22,720
governs the greater uh universe itself

754
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:25,520
i remember carl sagan was fond of saying

755
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:25,920
we're

756
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,119
all made of star stuff

757
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:32,240
and that's kind of the general idea

758
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,320
um that the that the stars

759
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,599
actually gave off the the materials

760
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:42,480
that gave rise to the planets and life

761
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:42,880
and all

762
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:48,320
let's now let's take a look at a human

763
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,079
being

764
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,119
based on what i'm talking about uh adnan

765
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:55,280
would you think that a human being is a

766
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:01,270
well based on what you explained i would

767
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,710
well yeah but it it's a it's a system

768
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,000
that formed in the universe

769
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,760
according to laws and principles that

770
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:13,119
govern it

771
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,680
the materials that we're made of in a

772
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,119
way they're put together

773
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,760
follow those universal laws and

774
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,680
principles

775
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,079
now there's a few things about the human

776
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:27,040
being that's very interesting

777
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:31,359
first of all of course we're alive adnan

778
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:39,750
second of all we're intelligent

779
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,040
we could take information and

780
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:45,920
form it into its equivalent in a

781
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:51,510
we're intelligent now just thinking

782
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,319
about that

783
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,720
that one's that one statement i just

784
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:56,880
made we could spend a 10 hour interview

785
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,030
but the other thing is the aspect of

786
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:05,119
what i just mentioned means that we are

787
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:09,119
creative that we are able to create that

788
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:10,000
which did not

789
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,000
exist before and as far as we know as

790
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,920
far as living things

791
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:18,079
to the extent that we do it we know of

792
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:19,359
no other

793
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,240
creature or anything on earth that can

794
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:23,520
do that

795
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:27,359
so human beings as a subsystem of the

796
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:28,400
universe

797
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,240
are alive they are intelligent

798
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,280
they are creative

799
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,200
if we're going to follow the principles

800
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,200
the scientific principles of

801
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,319
systems and subsystems what that tells

802
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:43,680
us adnan

803
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:48,560
that life intelligence

804
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:52,400
and creativity are built into the laws

805
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:55,520
and principles that govern the universe

806
00:42:03,510 --> 00:41:59,760
the universe is alive it is intelligent

807
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,520
and it is creative otherwise someone

808
00:42:08,589 --> 00:42:04,640
would have to

809
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:08,599
argue that somehow the human being

810
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,000
transcended or contradicted

811
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:14,319
the laws and principles of the greater

812
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,670
now some people have considered that

813
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:23,599
concept when i've talked about

814
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,760
actually a life-changing concept

815
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:29,359
it changed the way that they looked at

816
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,190
so yes now

817
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:39,200
if we follow this a step further to

818
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:40,720
answer your question because like i said

819
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:41,599
admin

820
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,880
if these answers were simple

821
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:47,680
we'd already know them it'd all be

822
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,240
grammar school stuff

823
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,440
we take this a step further and we

824
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:55,200
understand

825
00:43:02,790 --> 00:42:58,960
that the laws and principles

826
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:02,800
that gave rise to the universe

827
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:06,319
existed in the quantum singularity

828
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,000
prior to the physical universe

829
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,319
then that means that source that

830
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:14,079
singularity

831
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:17,280
from which the universe materialized

832
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:21,440
had life intelligence

833
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,390
there's no other way to escape it

834
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,560
there's there's no way to avoid that

835
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:32,800
when you take the logic to that

836
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,440
extent because anything that you would

837
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,200
argue to the contrary would be in

838
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:39,520
violation of known

839
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:47,829
so thomas the when you asked me that

840
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,480
question

841
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,560
it i know you weren't trying to trick me

842
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,440
but for me it's a trick question because

843
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:56,400
i always considered um or would look at

844
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,960
a human

845
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,760
as in two aspects kind of similar to

846
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,880
what you're talking about

847
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:03,200
because there's the soul and then

848
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,400
there's the part

849
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,160
you know that's physical being

850
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:07,599
controlled by it

851
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,119
to say in very simplistic terms

852
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:13,119
can you maybe talk a little bit about

853
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,240
that based on

854
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,480
from your findings from your point of

855
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:19,200
view about the correlation with soul and

856
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,000
body

857
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,040
is that absolutely because according to

858
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,960
super geometric theory this is one of

859
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:25,920
the beauties of

860
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:29,680
of the work adnan is that once you begin

861
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,319
to

862
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:33,280
grasp the principles that are involved

863
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:34,839
the

864
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:38,400
traditional barriers or boundaries

865
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,480
between supernatural between

866
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,520
normal or science and between religion

867
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,880
or spirituality

868
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,079
they begin to blur everything

869
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,720
begins to condense in in the same

870
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,240
greater picture

871
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:56,880
which ultimately the ultimate truth

872
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,200
would have to be that way

873
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:02,319
um so

874
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:03,760
the first thing we would have to do

875
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:06,640
adnan is to find what the soul is

876
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,240
what is the soul uh

877
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,000
people have an impression and some

878
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,079
people have a you know

879
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:17,359
uh their own opinions what it is uh but

880
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,240
if we

881
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,040
look deeply let's say in the bible which

882
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:23,680
addresses issues like this

883
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:27,040
um the soul

884
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:30,640
is the essence of what makes that person

885
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,280
an individual so for example

886
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:38,800
uh and here's how we would relate it

887
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:43,480
if neutrinos

888
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:47,119
materialized in the physical universe

889
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,079
from a specific set of information

890
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:55,599
that was contained in the

891
00:46:03,270 --> 00:45:58,720
quantum singularity

892
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,280
prior to the big bang

893
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:06,560
and that the universe and the

894
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,000
information or the structures in it

895
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:12,880
were materialized from the information

896
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:14,000
that was in that quantum

897
00:46:20,829 --> 00:46:18,240
singularity we might also say

898
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,839
that the human being is a

899
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,240
materialization

900
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,160
of the information that's contained in

901
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:29,990
that each soul is unique

902
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,440
and has a certain collection of

903
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:34,960
information

904
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:38,400
that distinguishes it from every other

905
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:41,520
soul that ever lived

906
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:44,240
and it ever will live many things are

907
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:45,040
similar

908
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,319
but there's some things that are

909
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:48,720
different

910
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,000
and so consequently if we define the

911
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:53,760
soul

912
00:47:01,069 --> 00:46:57,200
in that way then we are looking at

913
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:01,079
living beings that are being

914
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:05,280
continuously materialized

915
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:08,079
from the information that's contained in

916
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,069
so thomas how would you then take this

917
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,200
and apply to the subject that this

918
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,280
channel deals a lot which is

919
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:26,160
you know extraterrestrials ufos would it

920
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,480
be

921
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,760
the same approach as the universe took

922
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:31,920
with us humans that it took with

923
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:34,240
possibly other intelligent beings as

924
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:35,119
well

925
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:42,800
question uh at least for this channel

926
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:45,280
now there's been a lot of study that's

927
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,319
gone into ufology

928
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,160
and we know that there's a lot of it

929
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,480
that's been stagnated

930
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,030
ufology enthusiasts that feel that

931
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,520
they're basically running in the same

932
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,079
circles over and over again

933
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,680
that they're really not making any

934
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,829
here's the challenge is that we're

935
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:13,920
looking at a phenomena that occurs

936
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:17,680
at a distance uh

937
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,640
when we're talking about eu ufology and

938
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:22,480
it's generally occurring at a

939
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,040
at a scale that is larger than a human

940
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:26,960
scale

941
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,040
size wise but now

942
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:33,119
let's take for a moment let's think

943
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:34,079
about paranormal

944
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:38,480
phenomena okay what we have

945
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,000
we have a number of of

946
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,720
effects that we see in paranormal

947
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:46,480
phenomena

948
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:54,549
information that is materializing in

949
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:55,680
front of our eyes

950
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,280
even if you hear a disembodied voice

951
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:01,440
that's a non-local materialization

952
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:02,319
because there's no

953
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:05,760
vocal cords local to the sound

954
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:09,280
and yet the sound is still materializing

955
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:13,040
um we know that in

956
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:16,640
in paranormal phenomena

957
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,280
we have thermal effects

958
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:24,480
which we could talk about if we get time

959
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,950
we also have uh which is very

960
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:35,599
interesting

961
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,880
on the onset of paranormal love of a

962
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:40,720
paranormal event

963
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:44,319
uh investigators sometimes report

964
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:48,240
the malfunctioning of their

965
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:55,829
now the conventional explanation is all

966
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,480
the spirit is drawing energy in order to

967
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:00,640
materialize in order to manifest

968
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:05,280
well guess what exact same phenomenon

969
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,990
we're in a vicinity of a ufo sometimes a

970
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:14,400
radio stops working the car stops it

971
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:21,270
nobody ever says that the ufo

972
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:23,440
is drawing energy from your car battery

973
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,829
you see in paranormal phenomena

974
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:35,750
manifestations like apparitions that

975
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:43,750
sometimes you see poltergeist activity

976
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,920
where objects move without any visible

977
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,800
means of propulsion

978
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:52,880
is this beginning to sound familiar

979
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:00,710
so imagine

980
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,000
if we were able

981
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,040
to discover

982
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:08,880
which i believe i've got the beginning

983
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:11,280
parts of it

984
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:14,720
what i call paranormal mechanics

985
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:18,240
the apps the the actual physics

986
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,240
has yet to be discovered physics that

987
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:24,319
explains

988
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,280
paranormal events because let's face it

989
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,680
these events occur within the physical

990
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,720
universe

991
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,280
so they must conform to the laws and

992
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:35,280
principles that govern the greater

993
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:36,240
universe

994
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:39,839
in which they are component

995
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:43,680
if someone was able to

996
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:46,800
unlock the physics behind

997
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:50,559
paranormal events what could we do

998
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:57,910
we could build we could affect any

999
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:04,549
we could travel

1000
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:12,950
and furthermore if the information

1001
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:16,839
is being materialized from a non-local

1002
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:19,920
source we could have things like

1003
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:22,960
teleportation and materialization

1004
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:27,920
gives us an insight into how alien craft

1005
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:31,520
might be able to reach our local space

1006
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:34,240
while bypassing the normal limitations

1007
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,079
of space and time

1008
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:39,040
where established physics says well we

1009
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,920
you know people

1010
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,040
uh aliens could not be coming

1011
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:45,280
to us from a certain star system for

1012
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:46,319
example

1013
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,599
because it would just take too long

1014
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:51,359
it would take too long and too much

1015
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,640
energy to get here

1016
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,280
too many hundreds of years or whatever

1017
00:53:02,790 --> 00:52:57,359
no

1018
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,800
mastered the techniques or the or the

1019
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,359
mechanics behind teleportation

1020
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,079
which we know in paranormal uh uh

1021
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:09,920
phenomena paranormally active

1022
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,040
sites teleports can exist can happen

1023
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,599
so here's the thing too adnan about

1024
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:20,079
paranormal phenomena

1025
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:23,920
it's local in terms of

1026
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,160
it happens close at hand to us

1027
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,960
sometimes right in front of us sometimes

1028
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:32,480
just feet away

1029
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:35,839
at a paranormally active site

1030
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,000
and it's and it's on a human scale

1031
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,520
we're not looking at something that

1032
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,200
could be 300 feet across

1033
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,319
10 000 feet in the air we're looking at

1034
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:47,839
things on human scale

1035
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:49,839
right in front of us in our own local

1036
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:56,790
so the study of paranormal phenomena

1037
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:00,079
in my opinion leads us to

1038
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,440
insights into what a ufo might be

1039
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:05,599
how it might be put together how it

1040
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,109
as far as aliens think about this

1041
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:17,270
remember i was talking about this system

1042
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,559
and subsystem type of thing

1043
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,760
and this is where these concepts opens

1044
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,839
the door wide open it just

1045
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,160
that's why i call my book behind the

1046
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:30,400
cosmic veil because essentially

1047
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:33,440
it tears the cosmic veil in two and

1048
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:34,559
allows us to look

1049
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:38,880
past it look beyond us um

1050
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,400
if we are alive and we are a sub-system

1051
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,040
of the greater universe

1052
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,520
and the the laws and principles that

1053
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:49,760
govern the formation of life are part of

1054
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:52,480
the universal code

1055
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,359
then anywhere in the universe that

1056
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:57,280
conditions are right

1057
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:05,750
it's an explanation as to why even in

1058
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:06,079
our

1059
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:13,910
scientists cannot figure out

1060
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,000
how life arose from inanimate matter

1061
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,400
they don't know how life ex how life

1062
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:22,640
came into being

1063
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:25,920
i always when the theory of evolution

1064
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,000
i uh i always say about evolution

1065
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,040
that it's a great theory but it is a

1066
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:35,760
sentence that but it is a statement that

1067
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,640
started in mid-sentence

1068
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:40,799
the last half of the sentence looks

1069
00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:42,799
great

1070
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,839
but the first half of the sentence is

1071
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:48,400
missing

1072
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:51,920
because evolution cannot define how life

1073
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:58,829
so any kind of a spontaneous

1074
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,359
materialization like that

1075
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,359
see how i'm even using the same

1076
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,440
terminologies

1077
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:08,400
to describe all these different things

1078
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,200
if life was a spontaneous

1079
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:11,760
materialization

1080
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,480
then laws and principles which can give

1081
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,720
rise to life are programmed

1082
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,960
into the laws and principles of the

1083
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,760
universe

1084
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,359
otherwise we would say that the

1085
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,119
formation of life

1086
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:26,160
breaks the laws of the universe and that

1087
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,400
really cannot be

1088
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,799
so if life formed here life can form

1089
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:32,319
elsewhere

1090
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:35,119
if intelligence can form here

1091
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,079
intelligence can form elsewhere

1092
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,720
and if creativity can form here

1093
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,200
creativity can form elsewhere

1094
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,319
anywhere in the universe where a

1095
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:48,240
planetary environment

1096
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:51,440
is sufficiently dynamic not like the

1097
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,720
moon which is static and dead

1098
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,000
or like mars which is almost static

1099
00:57:01,510 --> 00:57:00,319
but not quite but it's good to think of

1100
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:01,520
the moon where it's static

1101
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,280
it's dead there's no dynamism in it

1102
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,839
uh there's no weather there's no

1103
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:09,680
volcanoes there's no

1104
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,920
plate tectonics there's there's none of

1105
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:13,839
those dynamisms

1106
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:17,839
are at work but that dynamic

1107
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,040
state has to exist

1108
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:24,400
for a long enough time

1109
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:27,760
and i say anywhere uh planetary

1110
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,040
conditions are sufficiently dynamic

1111
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:33,520
and sufficiently stable on a long period

1112
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:34,640
of time

1113
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:37,680
life must form

1114
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:40,960
it has to

1115
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:44,720
it's just like taking two uh

1116
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:47,839
atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen

1117
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,200
and combining them in a molecule under

1118
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,440
standard temperature and pressure with a

1119
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,599
sufficient gravitational field

1120
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:58,559
to draw those atoms or those molecules

1121
00:58:02,789 --> 00:57:59,359
together

1122
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:02,799
it must form water

1123
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:05,599
it must form a clear liquid we call

1124
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,480
water

1125
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:08,400
anywhere in the universe where those

1126
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,069
so thomas i have to check back just a

1127
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:20,000
little bit so can you go more into the

1128
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,440
information or the

1129
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,000
the part where you were you're trying to

1130
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,680
say something about

1131
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:28,400
how especially people that that are into

1132
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,960
ghosts

1133
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,960
and would say uh you know the ghost is

1134
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,000
draining energy

1135
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,720
from this area or ufos you know weird

1136
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,640
things happen

1137
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,079
can you maybe explain a little bit more

1138
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:40,000
what you think that is so is it just a

1139
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:43,680
uh basically a shifting around of of

1140
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:46,240
molecules that are within that area ah

1141
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:47,760
good question

1142
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:57,109
and again adam the the theory

1143
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,799
of of the big bang has been staring us

1144
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:01,920
in the face for

1145
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:04,960
decades and no one had

1146
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,359
recognized what the significance of it

1147
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:09,359
is

1148
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:14,480
the first thing that arose

1149
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,069
and then the information for

1150
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:26,880
the the the primary the elementary

1151
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:27,760
particles

1152
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,040
began to materialize

1153
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,559
within the fabric the geometry the

1154
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:36,000
scaffolding

1155
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,760
the framework of that spatial field

1156
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:41,839
einstein taught us the space-time is

1157
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,400
actually a substantive field

1158
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,400
it's not an empty nothingness like

1159
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:47,920
newton said

1160
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:50,240
it actually is a substantive field that

1161
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:52,559
can bend light

1162
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,870
now that happened when there was no

1163
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:00,880
universe

1164
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:08,160
but let's say if we had a little kind of

1165
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:15,270
let's say for example it happened in a

1166
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:19,040
in a living room in a haunted house

1167
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:21,040
what would be the first thing we would

1168
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:22,319
see

1169
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:29,119
bubble of space time

1170
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:32,960
it would begin to emerge from

1171
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,920
a super physical source from a source

1172
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,559
outside the physical

1173
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,280
now if it happened in a vacuum that

1174
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:42,720
would be one thing

1175
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,280
but it's happening in local space with

1176
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:46,799
what einstein called

1177
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:50,559
physical content so what's happening is

1178
01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:51,520
the physical

1179
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:54,839
content that is

1180
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,640
occupying the space that's beginning to

1181
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:00,880
bend

1182
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:04,079
will get distorted

1183
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:10,069
now what happens when we when we

1184
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:11,680
compress

1185
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:14,319
uh atoms and molecules they become

1186
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,750
and one of the things that happens when

1187
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:21,359
they're excited

1188
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:24,720
is that the electrons the electrons

1189
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,440
jump up in their higher valences inside

1190
01:01:32,349 --> 01:01:29,599
the atoms

1191
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:32,359
and so what you would measure is an

1192
01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:35,119
electromagnetic field emerging from

1193
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:43,670
so the excitation of these

1194
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:46,880
atoms and molecules and the and the

1195
01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:49,920
particles they're made of occupying

1196
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:52,880
that rim that edge of that expanding

1197
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:53,680
bubble

1198
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:59,589
would produce an electromagnetic

1199
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:02,000
magnetic field

1200
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:04,000
another thing that the excitement of

1201
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:07,920
those electrons would cause

1202
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:10,559
is that they would as they drop back

1203
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:11,200
down

1204
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,119
in their valences they emit photons

1205
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:17,280
so we would have a luminous phenomena

1206
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:25,990
we see it every day we make use of it

1207
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:28,799
all the time in our modern world

1208
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:31,920
where we excite

1209
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:35,359
a material with a flow of electrons

1210
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:38,559
it causes the electrons in those

1211
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:42,720
orbits to jump up into higher orbits a

1212
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:44,559
higher energy

1213
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:47,280
a level when they drop back down they

1214
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:49,440
emit photons

1215
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:56,230
that's how we have light emitting diodes

1216
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:57,119
that can emit

1217
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:00,720
photons without having a a filament like

1218
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:09,349
another thing that would happen is that

1219
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:13,039
we would see a heat signature

1220
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:15,599
because that pressure in that activity

1221
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:16,240
in that

1222
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:20,000
skin around that bubble is generating

1223
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:27,069
so we would also see heat

1224
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:30,160
electromagnetic electromagnetism

1225
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:37,029
now when that's expanding in in in

1226
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:38,319
physical content

1227
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:40,079
we're talking about the atmosphere here

1228
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:41,440
air that would be

1229
01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:49,190
one of the things that would happen

1230
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:51,680
is that it would create a temporary

1231
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:59,109
oh and that would explain the the

1232
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:00,480
temperature shift is that what you're

1233
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:03,440
implying yeah

1234
01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:07,440
because we know adnan from basic science

1235
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:10,799
that heat energy let's say in local

1236
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:12,319
space in your house

1237
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:15,520
is stored in the you know

1238
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:19,280
it's held in the uh atoms and molecules

1239
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:22,400
that comprise the air

1240
01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:25,520
you reduce those particles

1241
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:28,160
those atoms and molecules in a given

1242
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:29,760
cubic feet of space

1243
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:34,079
and the temperature will drop inside

1244
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:37,440
so now we have a cold spot but on the

1245
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:38,720
outside

1246
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:42,960
where the expanding bubble is pushing

1247
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:45,520
we would have a heat signature this is

1248
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:47,839
how paranormal investigators

1249
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:50,799
see heat signatures and feel cold spots

1250
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:55,280
at the same time

1251
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,599
another thing that accompanies an

1252
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:00,000
expanding bubble of space-time

1253
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,829
now these are known scientific

1254
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:08,000
principles

1255
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:10,000
they're just they've never been applied

1256
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:11,280
this way before

1257
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:13,760
because we didn't have an operational

1258
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:14,559
theory

1259
01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:18,240
that put all these ideas together

1260
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:23,680
and i'll explain that in a second uh

1261
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:27,520
it would create a gravitational field

1262
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,640
an expanding bubble of space-time and

1263
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:32,400
this is very interesting because

1264
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:36,000
einstein worked on this too

1265
01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:37,920
this is where he came up with his

1266
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:40,319
wormhole theory

1267
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,000
um or what's called more scientifically

1268
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:46,319
an einstein rosenbridge

1269
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,000
he was trying to theorize a structure

1270
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,480
of an expanding opening in physical

1271
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:54,319
space

1272
01:06:01,510 --> 01:05:57,760
that would create a gravitational field

1273
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:01,520
without having physical mass

1274
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:05,760
to create it that's that's a wormhole

1275
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:09,280
um so isn't it funny that paranormal

1276
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:12,640
investigators sometimes just before the

1277
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,520
onset of a paranormal event

1278
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:18,000
they they report having a feeling of

1279
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:22,710
and it's they always use the same word

1280
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,400
adnan

1281
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:26,400
they never call it anything else now we

1282
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:29,039
all know what heaviness would feel like

1283
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:30,839
if you're in a roller coaster or

1284
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:33,359
something

1285
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:36,720
so this model of what i call an

1286
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:45,029
can give explanations to all

1287
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,240
not just one phenomenon but all the

1288
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:50,079
collection of phenomena

1289
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:53,599
that we see at a paranormal event

1290
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,280
uh or or paranormally active site

1291
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,440
uh there's more to it than this too

1292
01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:00,880
there's other things that this

1293
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:09,029
for example evps where they record

1294
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:10,079
something on

1295
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:12,000
electronic device that it's not heard

1296
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,799
with the ears well

1297
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:17,039
if you have an expanding bubble of space

1298
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:18,640
time

1299
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:21,520
and information vocal information is

1300
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:24,480
materializing within that bubble

1301
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:28,079
the surface of that bubble will begin

1302
01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:31,680
to resonate with that materializing

1303
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:34,079
vocalization

1304
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:38,640
it could cause an audible phenomena

1305
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,920
from the acoustical waves that are being

1306
01:07:46,910 --> 01:07:43,039
given off

1307
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:46,920
by that surface but it can also cause an

1308
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,000
electromagnetic phenomenon

1309
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,319
where the information is conveyed via an

1310
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:54,720
electromagnetic compression wave

1311
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:57,359
to the recording device that the ear

1312
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:58,799
cannot hear

1313
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:00,880
because the ear can't hear

1314
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:04,240
electromagnetic compression waves

1315
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,430
so connecting uh two questions

1316
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:14,319
um so first one is kind of along the

1317
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:14,880
same

1318
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,239
discussing so if there was to

1319
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:23,279
would it be a matter of physical

1320
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,839
matter that basically let's say in case

1321
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:27,199
of a ufo

1322
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,880
uh or not so much a ghost that if a

1323
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:32,000
person was

1324
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,880
within that same area and something was

1325
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:36,560
basically materializing

1326
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:39,520
could that cause damage to to somebody

1327
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,839
or

1328
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:42,480
would we only feel it in in these you

1329
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:42,960
know

1330
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:45,440
impressions in things like cold and

1331
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:46,960
heaviness and things like that or would

1332
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:47,920
there be

1333
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,199
actual harm happening well it could be

1334
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,520
harmful to people and people have gotten

1335
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:55,679
sick and nauseated

1336
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:57,759
when these events began to occur i mean

1337
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,480
if you're bending the space

1338
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:02,799
that your body's occupying it's going to

1339
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,000
react to it

1340
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,960
of course if the space is bending in a

1341
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:08,560
sufficient way

1342
01:09:14,149 --> 01:09:10,719
everything is bending at the same time

1343
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:14,159
so you can't detect it physically

1344
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:18,239
um but yes there's another aspect of it

1345
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:22,159
too that was accidentally stumbled upon

1346
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:28,070
by another paranormal researcher

1347
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:29,520
investigator

1348
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,040
um wanna if if these little

1349
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,440
openings what you would call a event

1350
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,520
horizon

1351
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,480
um i call it an expanding defluential

1352
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,120
field bubble

1353
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,719
he called it a wormhole he felt that a

1354
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:50,000
wormhole

1355
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:53,679
was actually opening in local space

1356
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:56,960
one of the things that we know

1357
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:00,640
that happened in the early universe

1358
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,239
is that when when the universe began to

1359
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,159
materialize one of the

1360
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:08,960
exotic particles that was created was

1361
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:15,350
and antimatter when it collides with

1362
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,040
matter

1363
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,440
there's little tiny microscopic you know

1364
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:22,080
uh subatomic explosions

1365
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:24,880
but what they do adnan is give off gamma

1366
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:30,790
and he started testing for

1367
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,159
gamma at paranormal sites and was able

1368
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:36,400
to detect it

1369
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:40,159
in places where no known

1370
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:43,679
normal source could create gamma

1371
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:45,920
radiation of that intensity we're

1372
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:46,719
talking about

1373
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:49,440
inside nuclear reactors we're talking

1374
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:49,920
about

1375
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,320
get gamma you need to

1376
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:56,800
generate a lot of energy unless you have

1377
01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,679
any matter

1378
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:03,120
and so he became in fact in one uh

1379
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,159
one site that the gamma was rating was

1380
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:08,560
was rising so high that he asked his

1381
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:13,360
investigative team to leave the room

1382
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:16,560
because it was reaching dangerous levels

1383
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,800
can i ask you the the second question uh

1384
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:20,239
before you go too far

1385
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:23,520
so anyway this will almost force it to

1386
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:24,640
change the subject

1387
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:27,520
maybe so um i only know it as have you

1388
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:28,239
heard of the

1389
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,679
two-slit experiment oh absolutely okay

1390
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:33,920
so based on your understanding of what

1391
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,080
you've what you've written about

1392
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:38,159
looking at that experiment and what had

1393
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:40,000
happened can you analyze it and kind of

1394
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:41,920
give me your thoughts on that

1395
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,239
yes absolutely and this has been

1396
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:46,320
postulated before

1397
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,679
david baum one of the greatest

1398
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:51,920
physicists of the 20th century

1399
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:54,640
by no means a fringe or a quack he was

1400
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:55,840
mainstream

1401
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,280
and at the top of his field uh

1402
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,520
he stated once that the two-slit

1403
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:03,120
experiment

1404
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:06,880
uh is is the

1405
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:10,960
only mystery

1406
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,400
of quantum mechanics

1407
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:17,120
and the entire mystery of quantum

1408
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:24,070
and what we're looking at you know

1409
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:26,960
because part of the two-slit experiment

1410
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:27,760
uh

1411
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:32,719
is that we have waves of interference

1412
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:36,560
that result on the projection screen

1413
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:39,920
so to speak and what's weird about

1414
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,000
it is if they fire one photon at a time

1415
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:47,199
collectively those photons create the

1416
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,000
same

1417
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:51,440
interference pattern on the screen

1418
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,480
as if every photon knew exactly

1419
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:57,360
what happened before and what happened

1420
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,400
afterwards

1421
01:13:02,470 --> 01:12:59,920
or what was going to happen in the

1422
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:02,480
future so it could take its proper place

1423
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:12,310
so according to my theory

1424
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:15,430
what the two slit experiment

1425
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:19,600
uh illustrates is the fact

1426
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,520
that there is a greater reality

1427
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:25,920
there's a non-physical reality from

1428
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:34,630
and so it's that non-physical

1429
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,040
or pre-physical or super physical or

1430
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:39,679
super geometric

1431
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:44,640
that determines where these electrons

1432
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,070
they are what's causing the interference

1433
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:54,159
pattern because the interference pattern

1434
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:55,280
is part of

1435
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:00,000
what generates them um

1436
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,440
louis de broglie it was 1923

1437
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:08,480
uh wrote a paper where he introduced the

1438
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:09,199
idea

1439
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:12,880
of guide waves

1440
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,440
that he believed the entire two-slit

1441
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:17,280
experiment

1442
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:20,719
was being uh established

1443
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:23,760
determined by what he called

1444
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:31,030
um but in his work

1445
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:34,159
he believed the guide waves were

1446
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:37,840
emerging from the experimental

1447
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,640
system itself again we're talking about

1448
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:42,640
a system and the subsystems that are

1449
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:45,520
generated by it

1450
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:48,719
according to my theory those guide waves

1451
01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:57,110
so that the waves actually materialize

1452
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,360
into the experiment

1453
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,199
so you took a long break i thought uh

1454
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:02,960
you were you were ready for me even the

1455
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:03,730
next question

1456
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,280
[Laughter]

1457
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:07,520
so is there anything else you wanted to

1458
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,800
to cover in this

1459
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:11,679
and uh this can then prelude to

1460
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,320
questions

1461
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:14,640
so that uh if people have any please

1462
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,239
start go ahead and

1463
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:18,000
put any questions in there but is there

1464
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:19,760
anything else that you wanted to

1465
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:22,960
cover subject-wise oh my goodness well

1466
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:25,520
there there's a whole

1467
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:28,800
there's a whole slew of implications

1468
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:31,920
uh from this theory we could talk for

1469
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:32,480
hours

1470
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:36,239
about it uh various aspects of it uh

1471
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:40,159
but again if if i wanted to to go back

1472
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:45,280
uh to the idea about ufos about ufology

1473
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:48,960
uh i really believe that the study of

1474
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:51,520
paranormal phenomena

1475
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:54,880
would allow us to discover

1476
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:03,990
and that that in turn

1477
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:06,800
would allow us to build technology based

1478
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,360
on those principles

1479
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:11,199
that would pretty much be able to

1480
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:17,590
and one thing i did want to mention

1481
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:19,360
about theory

1482
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,560
and i talk about this uh in my book

1483
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:23,840
actually

1484
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:28,719
uh for centuries

1485
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:32,719
people have known what

1486
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,470
they could tell you what they how they

1487
01:16:43,070 --> 01:16:40,560
behaved

1488
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:43,080
uh they would know all the

1489
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:50,310
just like in paranormal phenomena any

1490
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:51,360
researcher or

1491
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:53,679
enthusiast could tell you all the things

1492
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:55,120
that happen

1493
01:17:03,110 --> 01:16:59,840
at a paranormally active site same thing

1494
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:03,120
volcanoes same thing we've known them

1495
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:05,120
for centuries we know exactly what

1496
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:06,800
happens

1497
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:10,480
when they manifest when they materialize

1498
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:14,719
but we didn't know what their cause was

1499
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,960
and we didn't understand what the

1500
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:18,080
underlying

1501
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:22,320
mechanics were of it until

1502
01:17:30,590 --> 01:17:26,320
in the late 1950s early 1960s

1503
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:33,669
reintroduced an idea that was first

1504
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:37,600
introduced by sir francis bacon

1505
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:41,199
the idea of continental drift

1506
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:44,640
in fact up until this time

1507
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:49,360
a geologist could be blacklisted

1508
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:51,280
for supporting the idea that there was

1509
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,910
younger people don't understand this

1510
01:18:03,110 --> 01:17:59,920
they don't remember

1511
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:03,120
back in that day when those

1512
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:06,239
principles were unknown and in fact they

1513
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:07,840
were considered taboo

1514
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:10,400
when i went to school one of the things

1515
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:12,320
that they thought that could have caused

1516
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:14,400
the craters on earth

1517
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:17,840
or on the moon was that when the moon

1518
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:18,159
was

1519
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:23,120
liquid inside that bubbles came out

1520
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,080
from the core and when they reached the

1521
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:28,800
cold air they popped

1522
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,719
and that's what caused the crater on the

1523
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,640
moon

1524
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:34,560
trust me i'm old enough to remember

1525
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,920
being taught that that was

1526
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,520
one of the things they thought it could

1527
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,280
be anyway

1528
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,520
we didn't understand what was actually

1529
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:43,840
causing

1530
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:46,960
earthquakes and volcanoes until the idea

1531
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:49,440
of continental drift was revisited

1532
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:52,560
and revisited seriously

1533
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,199
and from that came the theory of plate

1534
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:57,199
tectonics

1535
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:00,239
now here's the crazy thing

1536
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:03,120
once we understood plate tectonics and

1537
01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:03,760
how the

1538
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:06,800
continental plates move

1539
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:09,520
and collide and drift underneath of each

1540
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:10,560
other

1541
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:13,760
and the effects that that causes

1542
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,960
now even a school child could explain

1543
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:19,360
the basic mechanics

1544
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:23,199
of an earthquake that for centuries

1545
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:27,360
escaped the greatest minds in the field

1546
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:30,960
we also now know that volcanoes are

1547
01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:34,400
caused by the same kind of activity

1548
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:36,880
see we never knew before that

1549
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,040
earthquakes and volcanoes

1550
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,600
were caused by the same underlying

1551
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:43,440
events

1552
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:47,280
and as an added bonus adnan

1553
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,440
we understood from that theory

1554
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:53,600
that plate tectonics was also

1555
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:54,719
responsible for

1556
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,080
mountain formations

1557
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:00,800
it was a free bonus it was like a bonus

1558
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:03,360
piece of information here it is

1559
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:07,120
you know now you can see and the only

1560
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:09,120
difference

1561
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,080
between coming upon that knowledge

1562
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:17,199
and not knowing what was going on was

1563
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:20,480
the theoretical model to plug all the

1564
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:20,960
data

1565
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:24,560
into we didn't have to come up with any

1566
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:25,679
new findings

1567
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,719
we had findings for centuries

1568
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:31,120
but it was only the theoretical model

1569
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:32,000
that put it all

1570
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,120
together and made everything make sense

1571
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:37,199
and now it's perfectly understandable

1572
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:38,480
whereas before

1573
01:20:44,830 --> 01:20:41,280
you know not 75 years ago it was a

1574
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,229
uh super geometric theory is one of

1575
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:49,920
those ideas it's one of those

1576
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:52,880
theories that takes all these disparate

1577
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:53,679
pieces of

1578
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:57,040
of factoids and puts them together in a

1579
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:58,840
consistent

1580
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:01,360
model that

1581
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,040
theoretical model

1582
01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:07,920
so many things are plain as day whereas

1583
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:14,239
before they were shrouded in mystery so

1584
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,800
um

1585
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,800
so everyone else watching if you would

1586
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,159
like to ask a question of

1587
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:20,239
thomas simply submit it in the in the

1588
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,000
chat with the three stars

1589
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:24,239
so we'll be waiting for those but thomas

1590
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:25,840
i wanted to ask you something

1591
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,520
something i personally experienced and i

1592
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,679
don't know if this also happens within

1593
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:31,120
your circles

1594
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:34,000
long time ago when i was very naive you

1595
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:34,880
know i

1596
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:36,800
there's even i think a video of that of

1597
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:39,440
me no disrespect to anyone that was on

1598
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,080
the panel

1599
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,480
all very respectable people that i

1600
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:43,920
personally have up

1601
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:46,560
number one on my list but i asked them i

1602
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:47,120
said

1603
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:51,600
well you do this part and you do the

1604
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,480
other part

1605
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:54,719
and the other person does that have you

1606
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,639
guys considered working together to

1607
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:58,239
really get to the bottom of this you

1608
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,600
know instead of just kind of

1609
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,520
uh having these individual strengths

1610
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:03,120
going down their own little research

1611
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,320
path you know

1612
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:07,280
and so after i was done asking it was

1613
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:08,000
kind of

1614
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:12,800
like um

1615
01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:14,400
it didn't seem like that they wanted to

1616
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:16,239
you know do you find the same thing

1617
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,560
and you know that in science is kind of

1618
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:20,400
sort of the same way that

1619
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,080
they they don't really want to

1620
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,480
collaborate unless they have to

1621
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,120
well i think to an extent that's that's

1622
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:29,520
true in any field

1623
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,199
uh everybody has their own pet work

1624
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,520
everybody has their own particular

1625
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:36,800
theories

1626
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:40,000
and what they're working on uh you know

1627
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:40,960
for example

1628
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:43,920
uh just in the paranormal field for for

1629
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:44,880
example

1630
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:48,320
uh there are people who specialize in

1631
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:51,760
studying evps

1632
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:55,199
voice phenomena they don't want to know

1633
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:56,400
anything

1634
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:01,440
about apparitions

1635
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:04,880
in that they don't want to

1636
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:11,360
consider what causes an apparition

1637
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:14,000
because paranormal effects there's

1638
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,440
almost like a catalog

1639
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:18,239
of them you know you could take you

1640
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:19,520
could list a catalog

1641
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:21,760
and say these are the things that can

1642
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:23,840
occur and do occur in paranormally

1643
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:25,600
active sites

1644
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:28,960
well a group will study one

1645
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:32,800
of those effects but don't want to

1646
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:33,840
consider the

1647
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:37,120
other because since all these effects

1648
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:37,679
occur

1649
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:41,120
collectively they must be due

1650
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:44,800
to the same underlying mechanics

1651
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,440
so if they're figuring out mechanics for

1652
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:49,679
electronic voice phenomena

1653
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:51,040
they don't want to consider the

1654
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,880
apparition because the appearance of the

1655
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:54,400
apparition

1656
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:57,600
would negate what their theories are are

1657
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:58,000
about

1658
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,719
evp because they both have to be on the

1659
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,080
same principle

1660
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:04,320
and they can't explain apparitions with

1661
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:05,199
their evp

1662
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:08,560
theories and so you get those kinds of

1663
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,120
things

1664
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:12,239
um you know from the scientific

1665
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:13,440
community

1666
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:17,199
uh there's a lot of intellectual elitism

1667
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,800
and intellectual jealousy

1668
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:23,040
everybody wants to come up with the the

1669
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,639
next best thing

1670
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,320
and they're all working on their own

1671
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:28,960
little worlds so to speak

1672
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:32,080
so helping or working collaborating with

1673
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:33,600
someone else

1674
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:36,960
doesn't necessarily help them

1675
01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:40,320
they're not looking for the truth

1676
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:42,840
they're looking for their own personal

1677
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:44,880
discovery

1678
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,239
and so yes and in any field it's like

1679
01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:49,920
that i've i can

1680
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,639
you know name fishing lure collectors

1681
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,800
and you'll find the same kind of thing

1682
01:25:03,350 --> 01:24:58,800
and it begins it becomes very

1683
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:06,470
i wonder sometimes um

1684
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:09,199
you know it's not necessarily the when

1685
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:10,080
it comes to

1686
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:12,159
exchanging ideas and talking about

1687
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,440
certain things i'm

1688
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,920
very much open to it but i know when it

1689
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,280
comes to then

1690
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,760
to the eventual presentation you know

1691
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:21,520
because i don't want it to be

1692
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,960
twisted and pulled in certain ways you

1693
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:26,080
know it's like i i

1694
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:28,320
always want to almost want to use the

1695
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:29,280
word control

1696
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:31,760
the way it comes out because that way i

1697
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,040
know that

1698
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:36,239
what i've learned has been conveyed

1699
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,760
the way that i've seen it and

1700
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:39,440
experienced instead of

1701
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,960
having to use with other people's

1702
01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:42,719
terminology and

1703
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:44,480
their points of views and things like

1704
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:50,149
yeah it's true for example in my book i

1705
01:25:55,270 --> 01:25:51,120
came up with a

1706
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:55,280
great way to uh

1707
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,760
redefine paranormal phenomena

1708
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:02,400
or supernatural phenomena i don't

1709
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:05,120
remember them all

1710
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:06,719
off top my head i'd have to look at the

1711
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:08,480
book itself it's been years since i've

1712
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:09,679
talked about it

1713
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:12,960
but uh let's say

1714
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,880
when something is moved supernaturally

1715
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:18,320
from one

1716
01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:29,590
when the nature of something changes

1717
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:33,679
due to non-local uh causality

1718
01:26:40,510 --> 01:26:37,280
i call it a transmutation

1719
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:40,520
and then there's transmigration it

1720
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:41,679
reclassified

1721
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:45,120
all the old gosh the two century old

1722
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:48,480
terminology that the paranormal field

1723
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:53,360
still uses and it's such a superior

1724
01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:57,760
uh system because it's very descriptive

1725
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:00,159
it actually

1726
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:02,719
addresses what the underlying mechanism

1727
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:05,600
is that's going on

1728
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:08,560
but no one has ever adopted it because

1729
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:09,440
it scares the

1730
01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:12,719
jeepers out of them they

1731
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:15,520
are you know the paranormal field is

1732
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:18,400
filled with self-proclaimed experts

1733
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:21,600
just like the ufology field is

1734
01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:26,320
just like the ancient alien field is

1735
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:29,199
and they are not going to accept or

1736
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:30,480
adopt something

1737
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:33,520
that blows away their model

1738
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:36,800
of what they think is going on

1739
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:41,679
so yeah people have not adopted it

1740
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:45,120
uh because you know they they want to

1741
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:46,080
talk about a

1742
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,080
uh uh you know an apparition

1743
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:52,960
or an evp they want to this is what

1744
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:54,320
they're familiar with

1745
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:56,239
they want to talk about ghosts and

1746
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:57,679
demons and all that

1747
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,840
they with what they're familiar with and

1748
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,040
they've become

1749
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:04,159
you know self-proclaimed gurus of it and

1750
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:05,440
they don't want to re

1751
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:09,199
organize everything that basically says

1752
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:11,040
basically says pretty much everything

1753
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:14,000
that you know is wrong

1754
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:15,920
and this is actually a more sound and

1755
01:28:19,870 --> 01:28:17,520
logical system

1756
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:19,880
and that everybody could use it to

1757
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:21,360
communicate about

1758
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:24,239
any phenomena whether we're talking

1759
01:28:27,550 --> 01:28:24,719
about

1760
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:27,560
gravity or paranormal phenomena or

1761
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:29,440
ufology

1762
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:32,080
or the two-slit experiment uses the same

1763
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:33,520
set of terminology

1764
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,840
that's very very frightening to people

1765
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:40,880
and they lose what makes them unique

1766
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:43,760
it's just like all these guys out here

1767
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:46,960
adnan that are hunting bigfoot

1768
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:50,080
and they have tv shows we're hunting

1769
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,360
bigfoot

1770
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:53,840
and they have conventions conferences

1771
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:55,040
about bigfoot

1772
01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:59,040
guess what i bet half of those guys go

1773
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:00,400
to bed at night and

1774
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:03,760
pray they pray that no one

1775
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:08,080
ever ever drags in a body

1776
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:10,080
because if you dragged in a body or eye

1777
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:11,440
dragged in the body

1778
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:14,000
guess what we're suddenly the world's

1779
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:15,920
leading expert

1780
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:18,480
because we actually have the body and

1781
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:20,080
whatever scientific team

1782
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:23,600
examines it we'll know

1783
01:29:28,229 --> 01:29:25,920
what it is and what's going on there'll

1784
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:28,239
be no more mysteries

1785
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:31,679
the conferences will disappear the tv

1786
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:34,320
shows will disappear

1787
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,760
the self-proclaimed gurus writing and

1788
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:40,000
you know writing and selling books to

1789
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:41,520
their groupies and

1790
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:43,840
you know getting paid for lectures they

1791
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:45,520
would all disappear

1792
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:47,360
they're currently all involved in some

1793
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:48,880
way i mean

1794
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:52,080
people just for being people always find

1795
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:53,199
some way to

1796
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:56,560
to meet about something

1797
01:30:03,110 --> 01:29:59,600
i understand but in many of those

1798
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:03,120
in all of those fields the

1799
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:06,800
um the gurus

1800
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:10,800
survive on the perpetuation of the

1801
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:12,320
mystery

1802
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:15,600
not on the solution right

1803
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:19,280
so um i wanted to ask you

1804
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,520
uh another question so i can't remember

1805
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:23,120
exactly in the very beginning

1806
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:25,120
how much you got into this and i

1807
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:26,880
apologize my

1808
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:28,480
i was paying attention but i can't

1809
01:30:32,229 --> 01:30:30,239
recall so this

1810
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:32,239
that initially jotted you to go down

1811
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:33,600
this path and write this book and

1812
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:35,920
whatnot was it a single event or is it

1813
01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:36,960
ongoing

1814
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:42,400
no several events several experiences

1815
01:30:48,629 --> 01:30:45,520
that i was cognitive enough and

1816
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,639
educated enough to realize that

1817
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:51,040
a these things really occurred there was

1818
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:54,080
no conventional explanation

1819
01:31:01,669 --> 01:30:58,239
but yet they were real and b

1820
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:01,679
that established physics did not have a

1821
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:04,800
universal model a model of reality in

1822
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:08,080
which these things could fit into

1823
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:11,120
so either our

1824
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:14,159
understanding our model of the universe

1825
01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:17,120
uh the principles laws and principles we

1826
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:19,679
understand govern the universe

1827
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:22,960
uh i had personal proof

1828
01:31:29,990 --> 01:31:26,400
that they were either incomplete

1829
01:31:32,149 --> 01:31:30,000
or incorrect and so the question

1830
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:32,159
for me became let's come up with a

1831
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:33,840
theoretical model

1832
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:36,880
that does include

1833
01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:40,719
all observable phenomena

1834
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:50,470
okay but uh which was it um

1835
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,480
you weren't too distraught by it you

1836
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,600
just thought it was something

1837
01:31:56,790 --> 01:31:55,040
interesting happening right and then

1838
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:56,800
you're like oh i can i can do something

1839
01:32:01,510 --> 01:31:58,159
with this

1840
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:01,520
oh i wasn't i wasn't uh disturbed or or

1841
01:32:11,270 --> 01:32:08,629
and it was that fascination and that

1842
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:11,280
intellectual curiosity

1843
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:14,320
you know i was one of these kids that

1844
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:16,800
always used to ask why when someone

1845
01:32:21,270 --> 01:32:17,760
explained it

1846
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:21,280
something i would say why why

1847
01:32:27,430 --> 01:32:24,880
why and i wasn't just playing a game

1848
01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:27,440
i seriously wanted to know sometimes i

1849
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:30,239
would get punished for it

1850
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:33,280
uh but i honestly wanted to know why

1851
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:34,800
you're going to tell me this and that

1852
01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:36,880
why

1853
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:38,960
you're going to say that such a thing is

1854
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:40,480
so and so why

1855
01:32:44,629 --> 01:32:43,679
i have to do this why not being a wise

1856
01:32:47,189 --> 01:32:44,639
guy

1857
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:47,199
if i understood why i'd be all with it

1858
01:32:51,189 --> 01:32:48,320
you know

1859
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:51,199
it's uh i learned how to distrust the

1860
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:58,470
i think uh you know some of us

1861
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:00,560
eventually get to that point

1862
01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:04,080
of uh that that they're very distrust

1863
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:07,199
um so thomas i have um

1864
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:10,239
um you know some people they're saying

1865
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:12,400
you know good to hear from you again and

1866
01:33:16,070 --> 01:33:14,000
they're always interested in what you

1867
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:16,080
have to say and generally love the show

1868
01:33:19,990 --> 01:33:18,480
but we haven't had any questions yet

1869
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:20,000
do you want to continue with some other

1870
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:21,840
subject or what do you what do you feel

1871
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:23,120
like doing

1872
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:25,360
well uh you know we could talk about

1873
01:33:30,629 --> 01:33:27,120
more aspects of this

1874
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:30,639
sure uh you know let's talk about this

1875
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:31,040
uh

1876
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:36,239
to formulate

1877
01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:39,600
from this theory is a

1878
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:42,639
one sentence statement

1879
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,719
about the universe which is really

1880
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:46,480
freaky

1881
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:49,040
uh because like i said this this super

1882
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:49,760
geometric

1883
01:33:55,189 --> 01:33:52,960
theory expands your mind

1884
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,199
it allows you to travel into places that

1885
01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:57,360
you never would have thought of before

1886
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:58,960
and make connections that couldn't have

1887
01:34:04,790 --> 01:34:00,800
been made before

1888
01:34:09,270 --> 01:34:04,800
um what i say

1889
01:34:12,910 --> 01:34:09,280
is that the universe is an expression

1890
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:12,920
of materialized and

1891
01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:18,480
materializing information

1892
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:23,280
that really covers the entire universe

1893
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:25,280
now everything else is a subsystem of

1894
01:34:31,990 --> 01:34:31,270
right based on the material on the

1895
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:32,000
information

1896
01:34:35,990 --> 01:34:35,440
that's available here give you an

1897
01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:36,000
example

1898
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:39,199
here's what some of the uh conclusions

1899
01:34:45,390 --> 01:34:42,080
from my theory

1900
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:45,400
have been first of all uh

1901
01:34:49,109 --> 01:34:47,840
supergeometric theory says that there is

1902
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:49,119
no such thing as

1903
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:56,149
now for listeners who aren't aware of it

1904
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:00,719
uh or or haven't heard the explanation

1905
01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:03,840
in materialistic physics

1906
01:35:12,830 --> 01:35:08,639
every observable effect has to have

1907
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:12,840
a local physical

1908
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:16,000
cause this is materialism

1909
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:19,600
this is what physics operates under

1910
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:22,960
now what we have

1911
01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:26,159
found over time

1912
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:28,880
is that we have been able to observe in

1913
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:31,360
the universe

1914
01:35:41,910 --> 01:35:40,149
than what physical mass is there to

1915
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:41,920
account for it

1916
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:43,679
say for example we could talk about the

1917
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:45,600
gravity of the earth and we know about

1918
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:46,400
its mass

1919
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:49,840
and all that and those things locally we

1920
01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,520
understand but when we look out on the

1921
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:53,040
universe

1922
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:56,320
we see gravitational effects that are

1923
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:56,639
far

1924
01:36:01,590 --> 01:35:59,520
in excess of the visible matter the

1925
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:01,600
visible mass

1926
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:04,480
that can account for it you know it

1927
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:05,679
would be like

1928
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:09,280
uh like the earth having 10 times the

1929
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:11,520
gravitational field that it actually has

1930
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:14,639
as small as it is

1931
01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:17,760
since every effect must have a local

1932
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:18,480
physical

1933
01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:22,400
cause and the conventional view

1934
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:26,960
is that gravity is the result of mass

1935
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:30,560
it's mass that generates gravity

1936
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,159
then we must have i forget the the

1937
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:36,320
latest calculations that

1938
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:40,320
85 or 88 or whatever

1939
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:42,639
of the mass in the physical universe is

1940
01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:45,199
invisible

1941
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:49,119
it cannot be detected because we have

1942
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:51,600
80 some percent more gravitational

1943
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:58,390
then we have physical matter to explain

1944
01:37:01,830 --> 01:36:59,760
it

1945
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:01,840
so dark matter is supposed to be this

1946
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:03,600
invisible mass

1947
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:06,080
that generates the other 80-some percent

1948
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:08,000
of the gravity

1949
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:11,440
uh that we observe it is

1950
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:14,880
a fantasy it is

1951
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:18,480
an imaginary substance literally

1952
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:22,239
is an imaginary substance dark matter

1953
01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:25,600
yes it's imaginary

1954
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:28,639
we can't detect it they've been

1955
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:30,719
searching for it in all different kinds

1956
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:32,080
of ways

1957
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:35,600
and basically it doesn't exist

1958
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:39,760
and yet they have to use a physical

1959
01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:41,840
substance to explain

1960
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:44,480
all the gravitational effect observed

1961
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:46,800
because in the material

1962
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:51,600
uh dogma the material religion

1963
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:54,719
of physics every physical effect

1964
01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:57,119
must have a local physical cause

1965
01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:59,119
connected to it

1966
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:02,159
and if we can't find it we just have to

1967
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:09,590
now here's what my theory says

1968
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:12,639
and this is where it gets really crazy

1969
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:14,480
adnan

1970
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:17,920
is that all we know that

1971
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,520
all mass is surrounded by a field of

1972
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:23,119
gravity you might have

1973
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:27,280
learned that in school um

1974
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,119
so like if if two human beings were in

1975
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:33,119
spacesuits and they were floating in the

1976
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:35,760
vacuum of gravitationalist

1977
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:38,880
or gravitationalist space they would

1978
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:42,239
eventually attract each other

1979
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:44,080
because the gravitational field that

1980
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:45,760
surrounds them

1981
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,040
you may have heard of that uh

1982
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:51,600
a lot of people have how far apart would

1983
01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:53,040
they have to be

1984
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:56,480
well i don't know uh

1985
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:58,400
somebody who's familiar with with

1986
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:01,520
gravitational mechanics would be able to

1987
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:05,440
tell you precisely based on the mass

1988
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:07,840
how far the effect would be but they

1989
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:08,719
would eventually

1990
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:11,360
gather together it's like what they say

1991
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:12,320
about

1992
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:15,520
planet formation where

1993
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:19,199
we had these these particles

1994
01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:22,480
surrounding stars and rings

1995
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,320
and over a period of time they would

1996
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,639
begin to attract together

1997
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:28,800
and start coagulating and eventually it

1998
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:30,159
would form a planet

1999
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:40,629
well according to my theory

2000
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:46,000
gravitational fields are the effect

2001
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:53,910
in other words the cause of gravity is

2002
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:57,040
not in the physical universe

2003
01:40:02,470 --> 01:39:59,760
it's outside of it and i'm not the only

2004
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:02,480
guy who's ever thought of that before

2005
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:09,430
was the first one in in

2006
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,760
helping working with einstein on his

2007
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:13,040
unified field

2008
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:16,080
theory uh

2009
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:20,080
einstein was never able to express

2010
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:23,040
gravity mathematically throughout the

2011
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:24,480
four dimensions

2012
01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:27,040
he couldn't get it to work height with

2013
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:28,080
depth

2014
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:31,600
time couldn't it couldn't work

2015
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:35,360
uh so what theodore colusa did

2016
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,280
was he added a fifth coordinate

2017
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:41,440
into the equation he said let's just see

2018
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:42,560
if this happens

2019
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:45,440
what would happen so he added a fifth

2020
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:47,920
coordinate

2021
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:50,560
worked einstein's formulas according to

2022
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:51,040
that

2023
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:54,159
pattern i'm not a mathematician so i

2024
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,360
couldn't tell you exactly what he did

2025
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:00,639
and then at the end of the equation

2026
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:03,840
he subtracted the fifth coordinate and

2027
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,560
got the proper expression for a unified

2028
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:08,880
field that would describe gravity in

2029
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:11,280
four dimensions

2030
01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,790
but what ultimately occurred theodore

2031
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:20,400
colusa

2032
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:24,320
came to uh a conclusion later in his

2033
01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:25,199
life

2034
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:28,800
that gravity was non-local that gravity

2035
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:30,560
was not being

2036
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:33,679
formed or caused by anything

2037
01:41:42,550 --> 01:41:37,199
in four-dimensional space-time

2038
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:45,109
remember when we i talked about the uh

2039
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:46,400
um

2040
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:50,400
uh uh the big bang yeah

2041
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,440
and remember adnan you know you can

2042
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:56,480
and i've had radio hosts tell me this

2043
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:59,360
oftentimes they've had people in talking

2044
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:01,199
about all kinds of things

2045
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:04,800
nobody described a subject like this

2046
01:42:09,510 --> 01:42:06,960
in this kind of detail with this kind of

2047
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,350
so this is something when the big bang

2048
01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:15,360
emerged

2049
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:18,480
the first thing that was created

2050
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:22,080
was a bubble of space time

2051
01:42:26,830 --> 01:42:24,480
with an accompanying accompanying

2052
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:26,840
gravitational

2053
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,000
field caused by the curvature of that

2054
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,080
bubble

2055
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:34,080
now this is very interesting because

2056
01:42:39,629 --> 01:42:36,560
there was yet no mass

2057
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,639
if you ever read up on one physicist

2058
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,719
astrophysicists trying to research the

2059
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:44,239
big bang

2060
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:46,880
one of the things they're looking for is

2061
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:49,280
waves of gravity

2062
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:53,600
that can be traced back to the big bang

2063
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:01,669
again this is what led einstein along

2064
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:02,800
the line of a

2065
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,679
einstein rosenbridge or a wormhole he

2066
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:06,880
was looking for

2067
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:09,840
a structure that could exist in

2068
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,119
space-time

2069
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,280
that could generate gravity without

2070
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:15,520
having mass

2071
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:18,239
now isn't that interesting because dark

2072
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:19,600
matter

2073
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,360
is imaginary mass to explain all this

2074
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:25,440
excess gravity

2075
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,199
whereas we have enough background to

2076
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:31,600
conclude if we were not stuck in the

2077
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:34,480
material religion

2078
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:37,040
that gravity is caused non-locally like

2079
01:43:42,310 --> 01:43:37,760
kalusa

2080
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,390
when the universe came into being there

2081
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:46,239
was a gravitational field before there

2082
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,229
now we also know there's gravitational

2083
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:54,239
fields around all

2084
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:02,790
and i've talked about an opening

2085
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:05,840
in space-time what i call an expanding

2086
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:08,159
bubble of space-time

2087
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:12,480
at paranormal sites

2088
01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:15,679
in which information can materialize

2089
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:18,080
that creates a gravitational field where

2090
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:18,880
there's no

2091
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:22,080
mass to generate it

2092
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:25,119
and this is why i say that paranormal

2093
01:44:27,510 --> 01:44:25,679
events

2094
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,520
the mechanics behind the paranormal

2095
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:29,199
phenomena

2096
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:33,199
duplicates what happened at the big bang

2097
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:36,480
now in the paranormal what i say

2098
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:39,040
is that a space-time bubble forms like a

2099
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:40,080
mini

2100
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:44,000
big bang and information

2101
01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:46,320
from the singularity from the super

2102
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:48,880
geometric realm

2103
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:52,480
anybody that's into the uh uh

2104
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:54,800
psychic kind of studies would be

2105
01:45:01,830 --> 01:44:55,920
familiar with

2106
01:45:08,109 --> 01:45:04,870
david bohm called it implicate order

2107
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:08,119
finkelstein called it super uh coherent

2108
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:09,760
superpositions

2109
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:11,760
these are all established those guys are

2110
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:12,960
established

2111
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:15,600
mainstream physicists are coming up with

2112
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,480
these ideas

2113
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:20,719
but to make a long story short if we

2114
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:23,920
take paranormal phenomena

2115
01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:29,360
and the big bang as a model

2116
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:32,159
what that tells us is this and this is

2117
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:33,520
frightening

2118
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:36,880
almost in its implications

2119
01:45:43,510 --> 01:45:40,080
it's not that mass generates

2120
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:43,520
matter or or generates

2121
01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:46,000
gravity it's not the mass generates

2122
01:45:52,990 --> 01:45:47,840
gravity

2123
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:56,470
materializes in the mass

2124
01:46:03,189 --> 01:45:58,719
within these wells of gravity that are

2125
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:05,430
you have to say that one more time yeah

2126
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:11,990
in other words the

2127
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:14,960
mechanics of what's going on in the

2128
01:46:20,390 --> 01:46:17,679
super geometric to super physical

2129
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:20,400
is creating these bubbles in space time

2130
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:21,760
just like it did at the beginning of the

2131
01:46:33,510 --> 01:46:29,350
and information materializes

2132
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:33,520
in these bubbles of space-time

2133
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:35,920
the bubbles themselves already have a

2134
01:46:40,870 --> 01:46:37,040
gravitational

2135
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:40,880
field just by the expansion

2136
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:43,679
of the local space or creating of that

2137
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:44,400
bubble

2138
01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:48,080
generates a gravitational field

2139
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:50,320
which is why supergeometry says there's

2140
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:52,960
no such thing as dark matter

2141
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,639
because the universe is actually

2142
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,520
containing gravity that's being caused

2143
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:01,679
by these expanding bubbles everywhere

2144
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:09,910
so let me say it again is that according

2145
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:12,719
to the super geometric model

2146
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,629
are formed in space-time

2147
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:23,040
from the mechanics that are happening

2148
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:25,600
super physically super geometrically

2149
01:47:32,109 --> 01:47:28,880
they are actually forming these bubbles

2150
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:32,119
in space time and the

2151
01:47:36,590 --> 01:47:35,280
information that's dropping down into

2152
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:36,600
them

2153
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:39,840
materializes inside the bubble

2154
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:47,430
so you're saying that that that's what

2155
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:48,880
almost kind of

2156
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:51,199
then initially drew everything together

2157
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:57,350
well yes every every particle is

2158
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,320
surrounded by a gravitational field

2159
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:03,360
the difference in super geometry theory

2160
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,239
super geometric theory is that according

2161
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:08,400
to conventional theory

2162
01:48:16,229 --> 01:48:12,719
the mass generates gravity

2163
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:16,239
according to super geometric theory

2164
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:20,320
the gravity well is where

2165
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,109
that's astounding

2166
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:36,320
because if that is correct adnan what i

2167
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:39,360
have just spoken

2168
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:46,310
creation

2169
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:49,840
i mean it it's that profound

2170
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:52,960
i i at the at the one of the paradigm

2171
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:55,360
symposiums i spent

2172
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:58,560
about 25 minutes uh

2173
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,159
talking to a woman who had an

2174
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:02,719
astrophysics degree

2175
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:10,149
she said you just wiped out my entire

2176
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:12,880
education

2177
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:15,199
she said what you're talking about

2178
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:16,000
solves

2179
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,280
puzzles in astrophysics

2180
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,119
that you don't even know about because

2181
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:22,800
you never took the courses and had the

2182
01:49:27,589 --> 01:49:23,679
degrees

2183
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:30,070
this is just so revolutionary in other

2184
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:30,800
words

2185
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:32,800
the model of reality is actually

2186
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:41,109
so yes if

2187
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:44,320
with the gravitational pull be um

2188
01:49:48,149 --> 01:49:46,719
forgive me if this sounds kind of a

2189
01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:48,159
stupid question to ask

2190
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:51,119
but so then the gravitational pull would

2191
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,679
not be any stronger or weaker based on

2192
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:55,360
mass it would just be

2193
01:50:01,270 --> 01:49:58,719
whatever it is that was initially uh

2194
01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:01,280
after it was created by that by that uh

2195
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:02,239
what you call it

2196
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:05,760
space time uh it's the

2197
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,560
it's the mechanics it's the processes

2198
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:10,080
that occur

2199
01:50:18,629 --> 01:50:13,840
super geometrically or super physically

2200
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:18,639
that cause the the bubbles in space time

2201
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:21,760
that create gravitational fields

2202
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,719
and then the information coming from

2203
01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:27,119
that super geometric realm

2204
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:28,960
drop down into these bubbles and

2205
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:38,390
it's the exact same thing where a bubble

2206
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:39,280
forms

2207
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:42,880
in a paranormal event

2208
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:45,199
and then an apparition materializes

2209
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,830
it's the exact same thing that occurs

2210
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:53,840
and what colusa thought

2211
01:51:02,550 --> 01:50:57,520
is that gravity actually precedes mass

2212
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:02,560
einstein came up with the wormhole

2213
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:05,679
to describe a formation an expansion of

2214
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:06,239
space

2215
01:51:12,550 --> 01:51:09,599
time a bubble so to speak if you will

2216
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:12,560
in space time that would have a

2217
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,599
gravitational

2218
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:16,159
field just by the mechanics of the

2219
01:51:23,589 --> 01:51:21,109
without having any mass causing the

2220
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:23,599
gravity

2221
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:25,520
that was the only way he could solve

2222
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:36,709
so what we're talking about

2223
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:40,310
and this is oversimplified like when we

2224
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,679
fly

2225
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:44,080
satellites through the solar system

2226
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:47,119
we're calculating the fields

2227
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:50,800
the gravitational fields but instead of

2228
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:52,800
having

2229
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:02,550
we have gravitational fields in which

2230
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:12,229
that's crazy yeah it's definitely

2231
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:15,520
definitely something to to think about

2232
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:21,030
with that in relation to some of the

2233
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:22,560
other things that you

2234
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:23,920
i guess were like a better word

2235
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,599
discovered uh

2236
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,760
what what was there a was there a

2237
01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:29,679
general conclusion that you drew that

2238
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:30,800
you can talk about

2239
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:45,350
anything that could be

2240
01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:54,390
can be created

2241
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,470
now i use the word image

2242
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:00,719
the general population uses the word

2243
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:05,750
i don't call it the imagination i call

2244
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:06,719
it the imaging

2245
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:12,400
faculty that's in the brain

2246
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:15,920
because think about it we can

2247
01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:20,080
think we can generate a coherent

2248
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,239
pattern of information in our

2249
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:28,229
and then materialize it in the physical

2250
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:30,480
universe

2251
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:39,589
they image the

2252
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:43,360
body of the coherent body of information

2253
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:45,760
that represents a form and then they use

2254
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:48,400
their hands in the material in the earth

2255
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:52,239
to cause that image to be materialized

2256
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,830
so what happens is that the entire

2257
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:00,719
universe

2258
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:04,320
the entire reality works

2259
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:14,229
not only does it explain some mysteries

2260
01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:18,480
in normal physics but it also explains

2261
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:21,040
to supernatural

2262
01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:23,920
it also joins together many religious

2263
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:26,080
beliefs

2264
01:54:34,830 --> 01:54:29,280
into the a single set of principles that

2265
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:37,830
um

2266
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:41,199
here's here's something let's say that

2267
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:42,960
we accept the idea

2268
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:46,000
that telepathy is real

2269
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:55,910
let's say you're in new jersey

2270
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,119
and you're remote viewing

2271
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:01,040
uh out in california and you see

2272
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:03,520
somebody with that there's his 57 chevy

2273
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:07,520
a red 57 chevy you see it

2274
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,000
you realize that all of that information

2275
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:15,520
about that 57 chevy about its geometry

2276
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:26,870
is being conveyed non-locally

2277
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:29,360
there's no local physical physical

2278
01:55:35,270 --> 01:55:31,119
connection between the recipient

2279
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,990
and that information pattern that

2280
01:55:42,709 --> 01:55:39,280
coherent

2281
01:55:44,629 --> 01:55:42,719
pattern enters the brain

2282
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:44,639
and it materializes as an

2283
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:51,390
i just blew the lid off of

2284
01:56:05,990 --> 01:55:59,189
using the same mechanics that brought

2285
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,550
and i'm not saying that i'm not bragging

2286
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:10,400
adam and you know me i'm not patting

2287
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:12,080
myself on the back

2288
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:39,270
well first of all according to my theory

2289
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:43,040
there is no such thing as dark matter

2290
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:46,159
uh and i know people struggle with

2291
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:48,320
terminology to describe what they're

2292
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,840
trying to think

2293
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:51,119
and what they're what they're trying to

2294
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:53,040
say and imagine because we don't have a

2295
01:57:08,830 --> 01:57:02,629
let me say this and i think i know

2296
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:11,669
um

2297
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:14,239
according to my understanding there is

2298
01:57:22,070 --> 01:57:21,030
and that is the physical and the super

2299
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,080
physical

2300
01:57:28,149 --> 01:57:25,119
the geometric and the super geometric

2301
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:28,159
is together as one

2302
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:36,870
um i don't know

2303
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:40,070
what we would how we would define what

2304
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:40,719
did he say

2305
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:49,910
uh he was i wonder if i was muted

2306
01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:52,000
and maybe i was it says does thomas

2307
01:57:57,830 --> 01:57:54,480
think we might have the ability

2308
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:57,840
to manifest ourselves minds within that

2309
01:58:01,030 --> 01:57:58,960
dark matter

2310
01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:01,040
to create a reality outside of our

2311
01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:03,520
current realm

2312
01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:07,040
all right okay well i i know that

2313
01:58:10,950 --> 01:58:09,280
he's trying he or she is trying to say

2314
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:10,960
something with the dark matter

2315
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:20,790
um

2316
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:26,159
my my my answer would be this

2317
01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:30,080
is that what would a reality

2318
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:34,560
be outside of our own

2319
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:44,790
see this is where uh

2320
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:47,440
there was a paranormal researcher years

2321
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:50,719
ago named dr stephen work he might still

2322
01:59:05,030 --> 01:58:58,790
issues that he talked about

2323
01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:07,669
and it's not it's not meant to be

2324
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:09,599
disrespectful

2325
01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:12,239
it's just meant to be after a certain

2326
01:59:19,030 --> 01:59:14,000
point

2327
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:23,510
that are ill-defined

2328
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:25,750
it's like saying a higher dimension you

2329
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:27,760
know there's another well what is that

2330
01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:30,560
dimension how is it defined

2331
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,560
so when we're talking about a different

2332
01:59:37,910 --> 01:59:34,800
reality

2333
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:37,920
that would have to be defined

2334
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,239
what would be meant by that would it be

2335
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:42,239
a reality that followed the laws of

2336
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:43,760
physics as we know it

2337
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:46,000
or the laws of physics as they actually

2338
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:47,920
are

2339
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:49,599
even though we don't know them all we

2340
01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:51,360
know there are laws and principles

2341
01:59:56,390 --> 01:59:51,840
there's

2342
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:56,400
governing our reality

2343
02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:58,400
would it be in that reality different

2344
02:00:02,070 --> 02:00:00,480
than that

2345
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:02,080
would it have a different set of laws

2346
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:06,950
and if it did have a set of laws and

2347
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:08,320
principles

2348
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:21,270
you you you see what i mean

2349
02:00:25,910 --> 02:00:23,189
the question i would do you said dark

2350
02:00:27,830 --> 02:00:25,920
matter was you said there was

2351
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:27,840
you said that was just imaginary right

2352
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:29,040
is that what you're saying yeah dark

2353
02:00:31,510 --> 02:00:30,960
matter reporting the super geometric

2354
02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:31,520
theory

2355
02:00:35,350 --> 02:00:33,679
and what's interesting adnan is more and

2356
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:35,360
more physicists

2357
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:37,920
over the last hands and full years have

2358
02:00:42,470 --> 02:00:39,920
been coming to the same conclusion that

2359
02:00:44,550 --> 02:00:42,480
there is no such thing as dark matter

2360
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:44,560
now so we know you're the dark matter

2361
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:46,639
that's not just not to say it's the same

2362
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:47,760
thing as the

2363
02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:51,360
vast blackness of space right

2364
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:54,719
correct dark matter

2365
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:58,000
doesn't according to super geometric

2366
02:01:01,750 --> 02:00:58,880
theory

2367
02:01:02,950 --> 02:01:01,760
and increasingly with a increasing

2368
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:02,960
numbers of

2369
02:01:08,550 --> 02:01:05,840
of mainstream physicists that there's no

2370
02:01:10,070 --> 02:01:08,560
such thing as dark matter so i know the

2371
02:01:12,709 --> 02:01:10,080
listener is trying to say

2372
02:01:13,669 --> 02:01:12,719
something that he or she is thinking

2373
02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:13,679
about when

2374
02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:16,560
they're using the term dark matter uh

2375
02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:23,350
say

2376
02:01:28,709 --> 02:01:26,719
all right okay all right um

2377
02:01:30,310 --> 02:01:28,719
do you do is there any other subjects

2378
02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:30,320
you want to cover uh

2379
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:32,719
because i know you went into gravity and

2380
02:01:37,669 --> 02:01:34,000
then oh yeah

2381
02:01:43,109 --> 02:01:37,679
yeah gravity

2382
02:01:47,510 --> 02:01:46,070
now why do i say gravity is paranormal

2383
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:47,520
because remember

2384
02:01:54,310 --> 02:01:50,880
i define paranormal phenomena as effects

2385
02:01:57,430 --> 02:01:54,320
that are the result of non-local

2386
02:01:59,910 --> 02:01:57,440
physical causes

2387
02:02:00,709 --> 02:01:59,920
so here we got and they never explained

2388
02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:00,719
this to us

2389
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:04,400
in school hey they said in the school

2390
02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:06,320
well the moon

2391
02:02:11,270 --> 02:02:09,520
is revolving around the earth it's

2392
02:02:13,589 --> 02:02:11,280
orbiting the earth and it's held in

2393
02:02:17,430 --> 02:02:13,599
place with gravity

2394
02:02:24,390 --> 02:02:22,310
by what conveyance

2395
02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:24,400
i mean you know like a radio broadcast

2396
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:25,520
has to be con

2397
02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:27,840
conveyed to the receiver through an

2398
02:02:33,350 --> 02:02:29,520
electromagnetic wave

2399
02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:33,360
a physical wave electricity

2400
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:36,320
has to be conveyed in waves and

2401
02:02:41,189 --> 02:02:37,360
particles

2402
02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:41,199
electrons that's a duality that's

2403
02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:43,280
another thing we haven't even cracked

2404
02:02:47,830 --> 02:02:45,520
the subject of quantum mechanics oh my

2405
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:47,840
goodness

2406
02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:49,840
because super geometry creates a

2407
02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:51,840
different model

2408
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,669
they call it a force

2409
02:03:02,950 --> 02:03:01,910
but we also know scientifically it's

2410
02:03:07,510 --> 02:03:02,960
kind of weird it's

2411
02:03:11,430 --> 02:03:07,520
it's a an oxymoron

2412
02:03:14,709 --> 02:03:11,440
that forces are conveyed

2413
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:14,719
by waves and

2414
02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:18,400
also have a particulate form

2415
02:03:27,510 --> 02:03:26,149
is conveyed by waves electromagnetic

2416
02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:27,520
waves

2417
02:03:35,189 --> 02:03:29,760
that can be collapsed into particles

2418
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:39,830
what conveys gravity

2419
02:03:46,390 --> 02:03:42,870
there is nothing no

2420
02:03:52,229 --> 02:03:46,400
physical particle or wave that connects

2421
02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:55,270
it's it's what einstein quipped a spooky

2422
02:04:00,390 --> 02:03:58,400
action at a distance

2423
02:04:01,910 --> 02:04:00,400
newton just said that this is the way it

2424
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:01,920
is

2425
02:04:05,430 --> 02:04:03,760
he understood that there was gravity but

2426
02:04:07,350 --> 02:04:05,440
he couldn't explain

2427
02:04:09,750 --> 02:04:07,360
anything other than saying it was the

2428
02:04:12,069 --> 02:04:09,760
nature of physical reality

2429
02:04:14,709 --> 02:04:12,079
to have gravity he couldn't really get

2430
02:04:16,390 --> 02:04:14,719
very specific about it

2431
02:04:17,830 --> 02:04:16,400
you know newton's apple and all that

2432
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:17,840
good stuff

2433
02:04:25,430 --> 02:04:22,320
um there is nothing there is no

2434
02:04:26,709 --> 02:04:25,440
physical wave because electricity is

2435
02:04:31,430 --> 02:04:26,719
physical also

2436
02:04:35,430 --> 02:04:31,440
it's a wave there's no physical wave

2437
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:38,950
of gravity we have never found it

2438
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,280
we have never found a wave of gravity a

2439
02:04:49,589 --> 02:04:45,440
gravity wave which is different

2440
02:04:51,310 --> 02:04:49,599
you'll hear on the news that you hear

2441
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:51,320
what they call they've discovered

2442
02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:54,159
gravitational waves

2443
02:04:59,189 --> 02:04:57,199
that's different than a gravity wave

2444
02:05:00,950 --> 02:04:59,199
here's where we get into the specifics

2445
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:00,960
of the science

2446
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:04,639
um if you took a rock or a stone and

2447
02:05:10,629 --> 02:05:07,360
threw it into water

2448
02:05:14,149 --> 02:05:10,639
it would create ripples

2449
02:05:18,830 --> 02:05:14,159
their equivalent in the elect

2450
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:18,840
in the spatial field as gravitational

2451
02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:20,400
waves

2452
02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:27,599
they're just a disturbance in the water

2453
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:30,480
but a gravity wave would actually be a

2454
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:31,199
wave of

2455
02:05:37,750 --> 02:05:34,400
gravity like an electromagnetic wave

2456
02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:37,760
is a wave of electromagnetism physical

2457
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:41,440
there is no such thing there is no such

2458
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:44,480
thing as a graviton

2459
02:05:49,589 --> 02:05:47,599
in fact in the standard model

2460
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:49,599
these are the things that helped cause

2461
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:51,520
kalusa and myself

2462
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:53,440
to come to the conclusion that gravity

2463
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:54,960
is non-local

2464
02:06:01,589 --> 02:05:58,560
it's not caused by physical mass

2465
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:04,229
there is no physical wave or particle

2466
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:13,189
so there's no conveyor

2467
02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:24,470
it actually works non-locally

2468
02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:26,629
which means in a sense that gravity is a

2469
02:06:41,109 --> 02:06:34,310
the only thing that connects the earth

2470
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:43,189
you mean by the creation of it and

2471
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:44,880
because of it creating

2472
02:06:50,069 --> 02:06:47,360
creating that gravitational field is

2473
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:50,079
that what you mean

2474
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:53,199
well my theory says is that and colusa

2475
02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:54,560
thought it too

2476
02:07:00,790 --> 02:06:57,599
is that gravity

2477
02:07:02,629 --> 02:07:00,800
is the result of a super physical or

2478
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:02,639
super geometric

2479
02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:05,920
process that creates these

2480
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:09,840
bubbles in space-time

2481
02:07:15,910 --> 02:07:12,880
which are

2482
02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:15,920
surrounded by or i should say

2483
02:07:26,629 --> 02:07:25,109
there is no graviton there's no such

2484
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:26,639
thing

2485
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:29,920
there's no gravity wave in fact the

2486
02:07:35,669 --> 02:07:33,440
standard model of the universe

2487
02:07:37,669 --> 02:07:35,679
uh which describes all particles in

2488
02:07:42,709 --> 02:07:37,679
their interaction

2489
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:42,719
doesn't even have a space for gravity

2490
02:07:48,149 --> 02:07:45,840
the standard model

2491
02:07:48,870 --> 02:07:48,159
of the of the universe the standard

2492
02:07:51,589 --> 02:07:48,880
model of

2493
02:07:52,149 --> 02:07:51,599
of mass and energy what they you can

2494
02:07:55,350 --> 02:07:52,159
look it up

2495
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,360
capital s capital m standard model

2496
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:57,760
and find out what it is doesn't even

2497
02:08:02,709 --> 02:08:01,119
have a place for gravity

2498
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:02,719
it has a place for all the other

2499
02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:04,719
elementary particles

2500
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:07,440
and their behavior and interactions but

2501
02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:08,079
it has no

2502
02:08:19,109 --> 02:08:16,470
the last uh the last space that

2503
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:19,119
needed to be filled was for the higgs

2504
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,800
boson

2505
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:22,800
and there's all kinds of problems with

2506
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,880
the higgs boson too

2507
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:26,639
that they don't talk about in public

2508
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,400
because it's bad press it's bad for

2509
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:30,639
business

2510
02:08:34,149 --> 02:08:33,520
you know what they discovered is nowhere

2511
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:34,159
near

2512
02:08:42,310 --> 02:08:37,679
what they gave the the public uh

2513
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:45,350
thomas uh so i wanted to just

2514
02:08:49,109 --> 02:08:47,599
something real quick so red pill dock if

2515
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:49,119
you can maybe expound

2516
02:08:52,950 --> 02:08:50,880
more on the original question that you

2517
02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:52,960
had i'm sorry i was initially muted

2518
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:56,079
but i asked it again live maybe then you

2519
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:56,719
know i can

2520
02:08:59,990 --> 02:08:59,520
relate to to thomas again but thomas

2521
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:00,000
before

2522
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:03,119
on your end um this is the previous

2523
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:04,320
question that somebody

2524
02:09:09,270 --> 02:09:06,800
was that were they able to rephrase it

2525
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:09,280
uh that's why i just asked them to do

2526
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:12,560
so so

2527
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:15,520
uh besides then seeing you know having

2528
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:16,480
this effect

2529
02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:19,520
and realizing how gravity works was it

2530
02:09:23,669 --> 02:09:21,280
were there any other things that were

2531
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:23,679
kind of um

2532
02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:26,560
that you then were able to look at and

2533
02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:26,960
see

2534
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,800
well this is labeled the wrong too so

2535
02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:30,480
not only is gravity

2536
02:09:33,910 --> 02:09:31,920
you know needs to be looked at a

2537
02:09:36,709 --> 02:09:33,920
different way what else

2538
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:36,719
was there that you that you may be found

2539
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:37,199
the

2540
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:44,629
now that's talked less about because

2541
02:09:50,350 --> 02:09:46,719
it's more esoteric

2542
02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:53,589
astrophysicists have physicists do not

2543
02:10:03,430 --> 02:10:00,159
know why the universe is expanding

2544
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:03,440
it shouldn't and most people have heard

2545
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:05,520
that they say the universe is continuing

2546
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:08,000
to expand

2547
02:10:15,189 --> 02:10:13,870
the problem is according to the

2548
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:15,199
materialistic

2549
02:10:21,950 --> 02:10:18,560
physical dogma religion

2550
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:21,960
the paradigm of modern science

2551
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:28,159
materialism this shouldn't be happening

2552
02:10:35,830 --> 02:10:32,079
because the gravitational content

2553
02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:35,840
of the universe should

2554
02:10:39,189 --> 02:10:37,440
according to our conventional

2555
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:39,199
understanding

2556
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:47,350
it should be keeping

2557
02:10:56,229 --> 02:10:51,920
in a tight collection a tight cluster

2558
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:56,239
the universe shouldn't be expanding

2559
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,960
so what they did was they made up an

2560
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:00,960
imaginary substance called

2561
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:07,990
and dark energy is what's supposed to be

2562
02:11:15,669 --> 02:11:12,400
pushing out the edges of the universe

2563
02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:15,679
with sufficient force energetic force

2564
02:11:21,669 --> 02:11:18,320
to counteract the gravitational content

2565
02:11:25,990 --> 02:11:24,069
that's what dark energy is because it's

2566
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:26,000
kind of esoteric

2567
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:28,639
and a little bit uh you know up there in

2568
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:29,920
the in space

2569
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:32,320
so to speak they don't talk about it

2570
02:11:37,750 --> 02:11:36,000
much because public can't understand it

2571
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:37,760
it's difficult for them to understand

2572
02:11:45,350 --> 02:11:43,910
but this is what they say is expanding

2573
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:45,360
the universe

2574
02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:47,040
of course dark energy is something

2575
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:48,719
that's imaginary

2576
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:51,760
nobody's ever seen it nobody can measure

2577
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:52,400
it

2578
02:12:02,790 --> 02:11:59,920
however in a material universe

2579
02:12:03,910 --> 02:12:02,800
materialistic universe where every

2580
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:03,920
effect

2581
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:06,880
must have a local physical cause

2582
02:12:12,229 --> 02:12:08,560
connected to it

2583
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:12,239
a materialist has no choice

2584
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:14,159
in explaining the expansion of the

2585
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:15,440
universe

2586
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:19,360
except to make up an imaginary substance

2587
02:12:26,069 --> 02:12:22,639
and say this is what's doing it i mean

2588
02:12:26,950 --> 02:12:26,079
this sounds crazy that modern physics

2589
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:26,960
does this

2590
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:28,960
but that's what they do they're making

2591
02:12:33,910 --> 02:12:30,960
up these substances

2592
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:33,920
they have absolutely no evidence for

2593
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:35,440
their existence

2594
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:39,280
other than an observable effect with no

2595
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,400
detectable physical cause so other

2596
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:44,239
scientists know that and they just

2597
02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:47,440
kind of use it they know it

2598
02:12:52,229 --> 02:12:49,599
and amongst themselves they know it and

2599
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:52,239
if you read certain scientific journals

2600
02:12:57,589 --> 02:12:55,599
you'll hear it discussed

2601
02:13:00,149 --> 02:12:57,599
but to the general public they don't

2602
02:13:01,350 --> 02:13:00,159
want to reveal that

2603
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,360
because it makes it sound like they

2604
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:03,840
don't know what they're talking about

2605
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:06,880
which essentially is true

2606
02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:14,390
now here's the weird thing adnan

2607
02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:17,440
this is the thing that that is the bone

2608
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:24,870
the universe is expanding

2609
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:29,270
but the objects in it are not

2610
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:32,709
in other words it would be like if you

2611
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:33,760
had

2612
02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:37,440
a jar full of marbles

2613
02:13:41,510 --> 02:13:39,840
and the jar keeps getting bigger and

2614
02:13:43,669 --> 02:13:41,520
bigger and bigger

2615
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:43,679
and the marbles aren't moving the

2616
02:13:48,550 --> 02:13:45,119
marbles stay the same

2617
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:48,560
size the space they occupy is getting

2618
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:50,159
bigger and bigger and bigger

2619
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:53,360
it's not like the surface of a balloon

2620
02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:55,840
where you drew dots on it and you blew

2621
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:58,159
it up

2622
02:14:01,750 --> 02:14:00,239
where you see the the surface of the

2623
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,760
balloon expanding

2624
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:03,520
but the size of all the dots are

2625
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:06,079
expanding too

2626
02:14:10,470 --> 02:14:08,239
now if that was really reality we

2627
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:10,480
wouldn't know the universe is expanding

2628
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:12,000
because everything would still look the

2629
02:14:18,149 --> 02:14:15,679
same if everything around you folks

2630
02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:18,159
suddenly expanded to three times its

2631
02:14:22,229 --> 02:14:20,239
size you wouldn't know

2632
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:22,239
because relatively it would all look the

2633
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:29,669
but this the finite space or the finite

2634
02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:32,800
matter the material content stays the

2635
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:33,840
same

2636
02:14:39,910 --> 02:14:37,119
while the space that it occupies

2637
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:39,920
is expanding just like a jar getting

2638
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:41,520
bigger and bigger but with the same

2639
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:42,960
marbles inside

2640
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:49,990
now here's what the problem is

2641
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:53,119
einstein demonstrated that

2642
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:56,239
space is a substantial

2643
02:15:03,830 --> 02:15:00,320
field it's a substantive field

2644
02:15:07,189 --> 02:15:03,840
this is why i can bend light

2645
02:15:10,709 --> 02:15:07,199
space itself is a field and that field

2646
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:13,910
so in this you know

2647
02:15:20,149 --> 02:15:17,360
in this idea of an expanding universe

2648
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:20,159
with dark energy

2649
02:15:32,709 --> 02:15:27,350
and the elephant is where is the

2650
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:35,669
because the spatial field occupies all

2651
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:37,760
of the universe

2652
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:40,880
so if the universe is expanding and the

2653
02:15:45,270 --> 02:15:42,560
but the geometry is

2654
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:45,280
not if the geometry was expanding

2655
02:15:48,870 --> 02:15:46,960
adenine with the universe

2656
02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:48,880
we would have that scenario with the

2657
02:15:52,629 --> 02:15:51,040
surface of the balloon

2658
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:52,639
where everything would get bigger at the

2659
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:54,320
same time you wouldn't even know it was

2660
02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:01,830
but space is expanding

2661
02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:03,920
while the material content is staying

2662
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:10,390
so where does all the additional spatial

2663
02:16:14,149 --> 02:16:10,960
field

2664
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:14,159
come from since we know

2665
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:16,320
the spatial field was part of the big

2666
02:16:20,229 --> 02:16:17,520
bang

2667
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:20,239
the bubble of space time the continuous

2668
02:16:25,669 --> 02:16:22,239
spatial field

2669
02:16:27,189 --> 02:16:25,679
was created and expanded with the early

2670
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:27,199
universe

2671
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:30,320
well where does the extra spatial feel

2672
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:31,360
comes from

2673
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:34,639
you guys will love this

2674
02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:39,040
physics says well it just appears

2675
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:43,679
i swear i swear this is what they say

2676
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:52,870
i swear that's the official storyline

2677
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:55,840
of course you won't hear that publicly

2678
02:17:00,790 --> 02:16:56,240
that's

2679
02:17:03,190 --> 02:17:00,800
cl behind closed doors any you know

2680
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:03,200
it's just like these uh you know these

2681
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:05,200
uh church scandals where they find that

2682
02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:07,200
the leader of the church is a pedophile

2683
02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:08,160
or something

2684
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:11,200
everybody hides it they don't want

2685
02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:13,040
anybody to know that

2686
02:17:24,790 --> 02:17:22,549
but super geometric theory says

2687
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:24,800
that the quantum singularity still

2688
02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:26,960
exists

2689
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:29,200
and the universe is continuously

2690
02:17:34,549 --> 02:17:30,000
emerging

2691
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:34,559
from it which would not only ex

2692
02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:37,599
explain explain the expansion of the

2693
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:39,599
universe without the need for dark

2694
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:40,840
energy

2695
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:43,920
imaginary stuff

2696
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:46,960
but would also explain where the

2697
02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:49,120
where the additional measure of the

2698
02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:59,990
that's good stuff

2699
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:03,110
so uh thomas

2700
02:18:06,469 --> 02:18:06,150
was so so in other words are you would

2701
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:06,479
you

2702
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:12,960
basically was this out information

2703
02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:14,719
because i'm not into that old time of

2704
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,399
reading at all time obviously

2705
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,559
but is this information out that

2706
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:20,479
explained it in that way that hey

2707
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:22,399
space is expanding everything within is

2708
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,200
still saying the same or is there

2709
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:27,599
kind of do you have to go to these dark

2710
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:29,200
corners to find it and it's not

2711
02:18:33,589 --> 02:18:31,120
something that's generally talked about

2712
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:33,599
well you have to do the research right

2713
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:35,599
but it's there if you are looking for it

2714
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:36,960
oh yeah

2715
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:40,719
and the idea that space is expanding

2716
02:18:46,790 --> 02:18:43,200
but the geometry of space-time is

2717
02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:50,709
sorry but the spatial field is expanding

2718
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:54,479
it's almost like if you had a a fabric

2719
02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:56,399
that had a particular weave in a

2720
02:19:01,349 --> 02:18:58,639
particular size

2721
02:19:03,349 --> 02:19:01,359
okay you know cross stitch whatever it

2722
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:03,359
is i don't understand fabrics all that

2723
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:04,639
much other than the

2724
02:19:07,750 --> 02:19:06,319
basic idea that they're a weave of

2725
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:07,760
threads

2726
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:11,359
and if you could imagine that piece of

2727
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:12,160
cloth

2728
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:15,359
magically getting bigger and bigger and

2729
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:16,479
bigger

2730
02:19:21,349 --> 02:19:18,880
but that the the weaves of the fabric

2731
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:21,359
aren't expanding

2732
02:19:25,429 --> 02:19:24,240
let's say you have a like a flower or

2733
02:19:28,309 --> 02:19:25,439
any kind of figure

2734
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:28,319
embroidered into the fabric into the

2735
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:29,920
weave of the fabric

2736
02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:31,840
the edges of the fabric are getting

2737
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:33,200
bigger and bigger

2738
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:35,439
but the weave where the embroidery is

2739
02:19:43,830 --> 02:19:41,910
that's staying the same it's just

2740
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:43,840
the fabric is getting bigger and bigger

2741
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:52,070
now i've said it in an oversimplified

2742
02:19:57,830 --> 02:19:54,240
way but

2743
02:20:00,150 --> 02:19:57,840
uh that's basically the idea yes

2744
02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:00,160
and the expansion of the universe you

2745
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:02,080
can read that anywhere

2746
02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:04,000
you can go look it up if you want to

2747
02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:06,240
look up dark energy you can look that up

2748
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:08,000
it's all public information

2749
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:09,760
you may have to dig a little bit to get

2750
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,319
into the more esoteric stuff

2751
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:15,439
right there's one question came in from

2752
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:18,720
the 5d raven it says right

2753
02:20:23,990 --> 02:20:22,800
i like that is it found in mainstream

2754
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:24,000
science which

2755
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:25,920
and it says you mean so in other words

2756
02:20:29,429 --> 02:20:27,280
you basically answered the question i

2757
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:29,439
had it is found in mainstream science if

2758
02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:31,120
you do oh yeah

2759
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:33,280
yeah when i'm talking about uni the

2760
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,120
expansion of the universe

2761
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:37,680
this is mainstream physics it's one of

2762
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:38,399
the

2763
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:42,640
astrophysics

2764
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:46,240
is why is the universe expanding what's

2765
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:49,920
causing it um

2766
02:20:56,790 --> 02:20:53,680
and the objects in the universe

2767
02:20:59,349 --> 02:20:56,800
are staying the same size

2768
02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:59,359
but they are spreading out further apart

2769
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:01,040
from each other

2770
02:21:05,030 --> 02:21:03,359
as the space time that they occupy

2771
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:05,040
expands

2772
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:13,110
what we're talking about does not we

2773
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:17,280
don't encounter this in everyday life

2774
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:19,120
the things that we're familiar with in

2775
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:21,200
day-to-day life

2776
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:28,230
uh so you really have to look it up and

2777
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:28,960
research

2778
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,920
and read about it and try to understand

2779
02:21:37,510 --> 02:21:33,600
what's being talked about

2780
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:39,670
not that difficult it's just that

2781
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:41,840
they're so uncommon

2782
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:44,640
that they're counter-intuitive they're

2783
02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:46,800
contrary to the way we normally think

2784
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:53,110
just like einstein's relatively

2785
02:22:00,230 --> 02:21:56,080
relativity where he demonstrated

2786
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:00,240
that a clock at the equator

2787
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:03,040
runs at a different speed than the exact

2788
02:22:08,389 --> 02:22:06,560
same clock running at the north pole

2789
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:08,399
because of the velocity that it's

2790
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:09,600
traveling at

2791
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:12,640
around the you know the the

2792
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:14,319
the equator of the earth instead of

2793
02:22:20,830 --> 02:22:16,000
being almost stationary at the

2794
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:24,630
counterintuitive

2795
02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:27,990
you know or you know where he talked

2796
02:22:34,830 --> 02:22:30,800
about his mental experiments

2797
02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:34,840
at the uh in a

2798
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:38,479
transparent trained box car

2799
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:42,560
traveling right under the speed of light

2800
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:49,040
and a person inside the box car

2801
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:53,280
lights a candle and immediately sees

2802
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:56,560
the light on the opposite wall

2803
02:23:02,309 --> 02:22:59,600
whereas the observer

2804
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:02,319
not traveling at the speed of light

2805
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:04,560
looking inside the train

2806
02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:07,840
can see that the light beam has

2807
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:10,960
not yet struck the opposite wall inside

2808
02:23:19,950 --> 02:23:12,240
the car

2809
02:23:22,230 --> 02:23:19,960
having already struck the wall crazy

2810
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:22,240
counter-intuitive you have to research

2811
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:24,160
it and study it you have to be a student

2812
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:30,950
so thomas um

2813
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:32,950
so crypto media thank you very much for

2814
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,040
your super chat i appreciate it

2815
02:23:39,830 --> 02:23:38,319
um the there was a red pill rebel doc

2816
02:23:42,630 --> 02:23:39,840
i don't know that this is necessarily a

2817
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:42,640
question or a statement i don't know

2818
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:44,560
you might understand this differently i

2819
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:46,000
know as always if you

2820
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:47,920
don't understand it i'm asking red pill

2821
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:50,399
doc to rephrase it but this is surely

2822
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:51,920
this is different from what was

2823
02:23:56,790 --> 02:23:53,600
originally asked

2824
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:56,800
he said uh was thinking about carl

2825
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:00,640
jung's interest in ufos do we

2826
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:04,560
awaken into another realm and inter

2827
02:24:09,510 --> 02:24:08,160
inter interpret as one a mystical

2828
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:09,520
experience

2829
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:12,720
of that mindset versus a ufo abduction

2830
02:24:23,429 --> 02:24:19,590
does that make sense to you adnan does

2831
02:24:27,670 --> 02:24:27,110
not quite i mean it has i'm sorry red

2832
02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:27,680
bell i

2833
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:30,160
if if you can if you can phrase it just

2834
02:24:32,870 --> 02:24:32,000
simply and straightforward i'm i'm not

2835
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:32,880
quite sure what

2836
02:24:36,389 --> 02:24:35,200
what you are trying to do the the

2837
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:36,399
listener

2838
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:47,520
thought

2839
02:24:57,110 --> 02:24:52,960
and forming sequential conclusions

2840
02:25:00,070 --> 02:24:57,120
or questions and trying to

2841
02:25:02,950 --> 02:25:00,080
condense all those sequential questions

2842
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:02,960
into one question

2843
02:25:06,710 --> 02:25:05,280
and i'm sure he'll if there's if he can

2844
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:06,720
maybe um

2845
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,520
simplify it or just get to a simpler

2846
02:25:13,990 --> 02:25:11,280
point because sometimes it is

2847
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:14,000
uh difficult to expound on on another

2848
02:25:18,870 --> 02:25:15,040
idea

2849
02:25:21,270 --> 02:25:18,880
oh these things are awful they're just

2850
02:25:22,230 --> 02:25:21,280
awful to try to figure out what's going

2851
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:22,240
on

2852
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:25,280
and and people trust me and from my

2853
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:26,560
experience this this

2854
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:29,359
this person here is asking a question

2855
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:30,319
they know

2856
02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:33,439
exactly what they're thinking

2857
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:35,439
they know exactly what they're trying to

2858
02:25:42,550 --> 02:25:39,280
ask but to try to put it into words

2859
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:42,560
and to try to to follow it in you know

2860
02:25:45,670 --> 02:25:45,040
in a logical sequence to be able to

2861
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:45,680
express

2862
02:25:52,230 --> 02:25:48,720
it right it's it's

2863
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:52,240
awful it's just awful because we don't

2864
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:54,640
have the common terminology for these

2865
02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:55,760
things

2866
02:26:02,550 --> 02:25:58,960
and we're talking about concepts

2867
02:26:07,590 --> 02:26:02,560
uh that creative people

2868
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:07,600
imagine but that these imaginations go

2869
02:26:12,309 --> 02:26:09,120
beyond

2870
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:12,319
uh the common culture they're

2871
02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:14,640
thinking of things beyond you know

2872
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:16,640
getting up and brushing your teeth and

2873
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:18,720
going to work and kissing your wife and

2874
02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:19,040
all

2875
02:26:24,309 --> 02:26:21,280
you know what i mean right so how do

2876
02:26:29,590 --> 02:26:24,319
they express that in normal language

2877
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:33,510
in my uh uh synopsis there

2878
02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:36,880
where i talked about it took me

2879
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:38,960
almost 30 years of research three

2880
02:26:44,230 --> 02:26:40,560
decades of research to

2881
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:44,240
write this book a lot of that research

2882
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:45,359
admin

2883
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:48,960
had to be about

2884
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:51,520
taking the concepts that i was imagining

2885
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:53,520
it and reducing it

2886
02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:57,600
into human language and a meaningful

2887
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:01,040
standardized terminology

2888
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:03,040
uh you know and these poor people ask

2889
02:27:06,389 --> 02:27:04,560
trying to ask the questions they know

2890
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:06,399
what they're trying to ask this red pill

2891
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:08,640
person they know exactly what they're

2892
02:27:12,870 --> 02:27:09,840
trying to ask

2893
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,880
but how do you crystallize it how do

2894
02:27:16,550 --> 02:27:15,040
do you formulate the question how do you

2895
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:16,560
verbalize it

2896
02:27:20,309 --> 02:27:19,439
in a way that another person would

2897
02:27:24,309 --> 02:27:20,319
understand

2898
02:27:26,950 --> 02:27:24,319
because often times adnan these these

2899
02:27:32,630 --> 02:27:26,960
uh creative imaginations are very

2900
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:35,750
i mean very simple way and i i haven't

2901
02:27:39,110 --> 02:27:37,600
confirmed this information i just read

2902
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:39,120
it i didn't really look up to see

2903
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:41,520
whether or not it's true but

2904
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:44,399
it was talking about you know during uh

2905
02:27:48,870 --> 02:27:45,760
shakespearean times

2906
02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:48,880
that uh shakespeare himself basically

2907
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:49,359
used

2908
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:51,600
vocabulary of like fifty thousand words

2909
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:52,880
whereas in we are

2910
02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:55,920
normal uh you know american english

2911
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:58,399
you know it's only about three thousand

2912
02:28:02,550 --> 02:27:59,280
uh-huh

2913
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:02,560
you know so that's quite quite a huge

2914
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:05,920
compression of words that can explain

2915
02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:07,359
certain things for example like some

2916
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:09,280
languages have certain words that

2917
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:11,200
america doesn't have now of course

2918
02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:12,800
americans always just

2919
02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:16,800
take it like for example um there is no

2920
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,240
as far as i know i mean i've been here

2921
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:20,160
for 20 years but for example

2922
02:28:24,309 --> 02:28:22,960
um there's no english word for

2923
02:28:28,469 --> 02:28:24,319
schadenfreude

2924
02:28:31,030 --> 02:28:28,479
which basically which means if somebody

2925
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:31,040
it you know it's basically when it could

2926
02:28:34,150 --> 02:28:32,399
be someone you don't like

2927
02:28:35,830 --> 02:28:34,160
or something something bad happens to

2928
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:35,840
them and you go hahaha

2929
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:39,680
you get what you deserve you know right

2930
02:28:42,710 --> 02:28:41,280
right but we have these words and all

2931
02:28:45,270 --> 02:28:42,720
while germ german

2932
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:45,280
german has just just one word you know

2933
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:46,479
and so anyway

2934
02:28:50,230 --> 02:28:48,640
and that's just the limitation obviously

2935
02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:50,240
from language to language and the way

2936
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:51,439
it's expressed but

2937
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:54,399
never mind having such a cut out or

2938
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:55,439
compressed

2939
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,800
vocabulary to we don't we don't use

2940
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:00,560
these colorful words

2941
02:29:04,469 --> 02:29:03,600
to describe things anymore and on top of

2942
02:29:08,469 --> 02:29:04,479
that

2943
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:08,479
uh um people are trying to explain

2944
02:29:15,710 --> 02:29:11,680
or trying to express things

2945
02:29:18,710 --> 02:29:15,720
that have been private uh

2946
02:29:21,590 --> 02:29:18,720
visualizations private fantasies

2947
02:29:24,309 --> 02:29:21,600
private imaginations as they play

2948
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:24,319
through something logical in their mind

2949
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:26,960
and trying to determine something

2950
02:29:30,710 --> 02:29:28,479
esoteric

2951
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:30,720
this person knows exactly what they're

2952
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:32,640
trying to ask is happening

2953
02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:34,800
they just don't know how to to express

2954
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:36,560
it because we don't

2955
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,040
yeah i'm waiting i've did ask him to

2956
02:29:43,429 --> 02:29:40,800
rewrite some of the questions but

2957
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:43,439
it hasn't come through so we'll see if

2958
02:29:46,630 --> 02:29:43,920
he will

2959
02:29:48,230 --> 02:29:46,640
if not you know of course everyone

2960
02:29:50,389 --> 02:29:48,240
everyone watching i always would like

2961
02:29:52,070 --> 02:29:50,399
for their questions to be answered in

2962
02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:52,080
one form or another and if someone

2963
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:53,520
doesn't know at least then

2964
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:55,600
they get the answer of oh think great

2965
02:29:59,670 --> 02:29:57,680
question but i don't know you know but

2966
02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,680
if you can't figure out exactly what

2967
02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:01,200
it's meant by the question it's it's

2968
02:30:05,270 --> 02:30:02,479
hard to answer it

2969
02:30:06,870 --> 02:30:05,280
oh yeah you you can't you know we can

2970
02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:06,880
only do so much

2971
02:30:13,110 --> 02:30:10,640
uh we can help if we can but uh

2972
02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:13,120
you know that's why i said i know that

2973
02:30:19,030 --> 02:30:13,760
it's a

2974
02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:19,040
train of personal visualizing

2975
02:30:23,990 --> 02:30:21,760
where they've started at a certain point

2976
02:30:25,910 --> 02:30:24,000
and they've taken that to where they can

2977
02:30:28,469 --> 02:30:25,920
in their own imagination

2978
02:30:31,190 --> 02:30:28,479
to another point but they're asking all

2979
02:30:33,750 --> 02:30:31,200
the intermediate steps

2980
02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:33,760
in one question when you when it really

2981
02:30:37,270 --> 02:30:35,200
should be five or six different

2982
02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:37,280
questions

2983
02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:39,600
so it's and we're not used to it's like

2984
02:30:46,550 --> 02:30:43,120
what you mentioned that german word

2985
02:30:46,870 --> 02:30:46,560
the only reason why it's used is because

2986
02:30:50,150 --> 02:30:46,880
it's

2987
02:30:51,190 --> 02:30:50,160
shared by the culture everybody knows

2988
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:51,200
what it means

2989
02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:53,840
right right imagine trying to describe

2990
02:30:58,550 --> 02:30:55,680
that to somebody in one word and

2991
02:31:00,309 --> 02:30:58,560
nobody's used the word before

2992
02:31:01,750 --> 02:31:00,319
if you said that they would say that's

2993
02:31:05,030 --> 02:31:01,760
meshuggah

2994
02:31:07,429 --> 02:31:05,040
right so i don't know it should red pill

2995
02:31:08,150 --> 02:31:07,439
doc explain just a little bit more it

2996
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:08,160
says

2997
02:31:14,469 --> 02:31:11,200
yes thank you thomas i had an experience

2998
02:31:17,270 --> 02:31:14,479
that i classify as a mystical experience

2999
02:31:19,030 --> 02:31:17,280
but i might have felt like an abduction

3000
02:31:22,309 --> 02:31:19,040
if not aware of

3001
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:22,319
study of mysticism where is that

3002
02:31:27,429 --> 02:31:25,600
space i visited oh i

3003
02:31:28,790 --> 02:31:27,439
under i think i understand what he's

3004
02:31:31,830 --> 02:31:28,800
saying right

3005
02:31:34,710 --> 02:31:31,840
uh but it depends on

3006
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:34,720
when if he's asking whether that's much

3007
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:36,160
clearer thank you

3008
02:31:44,630 --> 02:31:39,840
uh whether the space that he

3009
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:44,640
he visited is internal

3010
02:31:49,429 --> 02:31:47,920
or was it externalized

3011
02:31:52,230 --> 02:31:49,439
like he was actually in a different

3012
02:31:55,270 --> 02:31:52,240
world or something physically

3013
02:31:57,030 --> 02:31:55,280
and not internal

3014
02:32:02,070 --> 02:31:57,040
in other words i can imagine many

3015
02:32:08,790 --> 02:32:06,710
and uh it almost sounds like whether he

3016
02:32:12,150 --> 02:32:08,800
wants to know whether it's

3017
02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:12,160
it was imaginary or real right

3018
02:32:20,630 --> 02:32:17,200
and whether my my theories

3019
02:32:23,110 --> 02:32:20,640
would help explain it

3020
02:32:24,389 --> 02:32:23,120
yeah or at least address whether it's

3021
02:32:27,429 --> 02:32:24,399
real or not

3022
02:32:29,429 --> 02:32:27,439
right well here's the problem

3023
02:32:31,349 --> 02:32:29,439
here's the first problem with this not

3024
02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:31,359
actually a problem but this would be

3025
02:32:38,469 --> 02:32:34,640
helpful maybe all

3026
02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:38,479
thoughts are

3027
02:32:45,830 --> 02:32:42,160
contained within the human brain

3028
02:32:49,510 --> 02:32:45,840
the human brain is a physical object

3029
02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:53,670
and it conveys and holds and imagines

3030
02:32:59,110 --> 02:32:56,080
these thoughts in electrochemical

3031
02:33:02,389 --> 02:33:01,349
so here's another thing about my theory

3032
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:02,399
adnan

3033
02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:05,760
is that everything that you imagine or

3034
02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:06,000
like

3035
02:33:16,710 --> 02:33:13,510
if it wasn't real then the brain

3036
02:33:20,710 --> 02:33:19,670
but the brain is real it's built

3037
02:33:22,469 --> 02:33:20,720
according to

3038
02:33:23,830 --> 02:33:22,479
physical principles governing the

3039
02:33:26,309 --> 02:33:23,840
universe

3040
02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:26,319
which means that anything that's

3041
02:33:31,750 --> 02:33:28,240
contained within it

3042
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:31,760
has to be consistent with the laws and

3043
02:33:36,550 --> 02:33:33,280
principles that govern

3044
02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:36,560
the construction of that brain that's a

3045
02:33:42,429 --> 02:33:38,960
revolutionary concept too

3046
02:33:47,190 --> 02:33:42,439
right you know that's another

3047
02:33:49,349 --> 02:33:47,200
earth-shattering barrier-breaking idea

3048
02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:49,359
but it's very simple it's almost

3049
02:33:53,910 --> 02:33:50,720
childlike

3050
02:33:56,070 --> 02:33:53,920
in its logic so anything that you

3051
02:33:58,389 --> 02:33:56,080
image in your brain is real because it's

3052
02:34:00,230 --> 02:33:58,399
in your brain

3053
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:00,240
if it was inconsistent with the

3054
02:34:07,270 --> 02:34:02,560
structure of your brain

3055
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:10,309
you see what i mean right right

3056
02:34:14,550 --> 02:34:13,520
and that's just simple almost child like

3057
02:34:17,190 --> 02:34:14,560
logic

3058
02:34:18,790 --> 02:34:17,200
why they haven't exploded well that's

3059
02:34:20,630 --> 02:34:18,800
because this

3060
02:34:22,790 --> 02:34:20,640
what i'm doing is blurring the lines

3061
02:34:26,309 --> 02:34:22,800
between disciplines like between

3062
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:26,319
psychology parapsychology and physics

3063
02:34:29,590 --> 02:34:28,720
a physicist doesn't need to think he

3064
02:34:33,750 --> 02:34:29,600
needs to study

3065
02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:33,760
psychology wait a minute wait a minute

3066
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:35,760
isn't physics the study of everything

3067
02:34:44,469 --> 02:34:37,600
physical

3068
02:34:45,429 --> 02:34:44,479
see they take those outs adnan they take

3069
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:45,439
those

3070
02:34:49,670 --> 02:34:47,280
we'll excuse ourselves from the room

3071
02:34:53,910 --> 02:34:49,680
because psychology is in physics

3072
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:53,920
horse hockey psychology

3073
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:56,720
is contained within the human brain

3074
02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:58,000
which is a physical

3075
02:35:01,750 --> 02:35:00,160
object and operates according to

3076
02:35:05,030 --> 02:35:01,760
physical principles

3077
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:05,040
they just they cop out man

3078
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:08,479
of course it's hard it's hard to cross

3079
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:13,200
discipline in your knowledge

3080
02:35:18,550 --> 02:35:16,640
so um thomas i don't

3081
02:35:20,389 --> 02:35:18,560
i don't know what else to ask you to be

3082
02:35:21,590 --> 02:35:20,399
honest and i don't know if you want to

3083
02:35:23,990 --> 02:35:21,600
go into

3084
02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:24,000
more more things there have been you

3085
02:35:27,830 --> 02:35:24,720
know steady

3086
02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:27,840
number of people watching and they're

3087
02:35:31,030 --> 02:35:29,520
those who wanted to ask questions have

3088
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:31,040
asked them um

3089
02:35:34,790 --> 02:35:32,880
what do you what are your thoughts do

3090
02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:34,800
you want to keep going a little bit more

3091
02:35:38,469 --> 02:35:35,680
or do you

3092
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:38,479
do well we could i mean uh you know i

3093
02:35:41,830 --> 02:35:38,880
mean

3094
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:41,840
i think i mentioned to you that uh in

3095
02:35:45,429 --> 02:35:43,120
our initial

3096
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:45,439
uh uh communications about this

3097
02:35:50,070 --> 02:35:46,479
interview

3098
02:35:53,349 --> 02:35:50,080
uh is that i can go for hours man

3099
02:35:54,070 --> 02:35:53,359
because the subject is limitless right

3100
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:54,080
right

3101
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:55,520
you know i mean i would that's why i

3102
02:36:01,190 --> 02:35:57,359
would hate to

3103
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:01,200
um rob people from you know

3104
02:36:05,510 --> 02:36:04,240
basically being able to to hear more of

3105
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:05,520
what you have to say

3106
02:36:09,429 --> 02:36:07,439
the only limitation that i'm having is

3107
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:09,439
is me

3108
02:36:12,790 --> 02:36:11,280
oh i hear you've been so long it's been

3109
02:36:14,550 --> 02:36:12,800
a long day for me but

3110
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,560
i would hate the spirit is willing but

3111
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:16,800
the body is weak

3112
02:36:21,590 --> 02:36:19,680
right right yeah it's not helping me i'm

3113
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:21,600
starting a uh more of a

3114
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:23,439
healthy approach on eating and getting

3115
02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:25,760
back to exercising so i can actually

3116
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:28,800
get my butt to stay awake longer well

3117
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:29,840
there you go

3118
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:31,760
well you know i mean you're the host

3119
02:36:34,950 --> 02:36:33,359
adam and this is your show

3120
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:34,960
how about how about then you know i

3121
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:36,960
really you know of course this won't be

3122
02:36:39,750 --> 02:36:37,840
the last time

3123
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:39,760
you know that i would like to come on

3124
02:36:41,510 --> 02:36:41,040
and if you're willing you're more than

3125
02:36:43,990 --> 02:36:41,520
welcome

3126
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:44,000
you know sometime in the future but this

3127
02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:45,840
will be an opportunity to

3128
02:36:49,349 --> 02:36:47,920
uh send people in the description box

3129
02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:49,359
below this video

3130
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:52,960
there's thomas's website

3131
02:36:57,270 --> 02:36:55,280
access to amazon to where you can get

3132
02:36:59,990 --> 02:36:57,280
his books there or barnes or normal

3133
02:37:00,710 --> 02:37:00,000
so check it out you know that's why you

3134
02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:00,720
know he put

3135
02:37:04,469 --> 02:37:02,960
these these thoughts together into a

3136
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:04,479
book so that

3137
02:37:07,990 --> 02:37:06,240
you know it's available and it can be

3138
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:08,000
read on your own time

3139
02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:11,040
and um you know hoping that you do check

3140
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,680
it out

3141
02:37:15,190 --> 02:37:13,680
because this if you yes you know what

3142
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:15,200
you've heard for the past two and a half

3143
02:37:18,630 --> 02:37:16,160
hours it's

3144
02:37:20,870 --> 02:37:18,640
very interesting and it's different than

3145
02:37:22,790 --> 02:37:20,880
the regular talk that we usually have on

3146
02:37:24,950 --> 02:37:22,800
on the ufo show that talks about

3147
02:37:26,230 --> 02:37:24,960
metaphysical things and spiritual

3148
02:37:28,150 --> 02:37:26,240
things and using that kind of

3149
02:37:31,510 --> 02:37:28,160
terminology to where

3150
02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:31,520
um having thomas describe it in more of

3151
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:34,000
this uh i want to call it down to earth

3152
02:37:37,110 --> 02:37:34,640
science

3153
02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:37,120
is that yeah well adam you you brought

3154
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:38,160
up

3155
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:41,200
an important point right now in that

3156
02:37:47,429 --> 02:37:44,560
all these disciplines have their own set

3157
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:47,439
of terminology

3158
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:51,040
and so people who are in

3159
02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:53,760
interested in spirituality they have

3160
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:54,560
their own

3161
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:57,120
set of terminology people who are

3162
02:38:01,830 --> 02:37:59,280
interested in physics science

3163
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:01,840
have their own set of terminology

3164
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:04,319
paranormal investigators have their own

3165
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:08,160
set of terminology ufology does

3166
02:38:14,710 --> 02:38:12,160
and they're all different um

3167
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:14,720
so one of the things that super geometry

3168
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:16,640
the theory tries to

3169
02:38:20,309 --> 02:38:20,000
uh uh find a solution for is to provide

3170
02:38:23,190 --> 02:38:20,319
as

3171
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:23,200
common set of principles and a common

3172
02:38:29,270 --> 02:38:25,600
set of terminology

3173
02:38:30,070 --> 02:38:29,280
so that the lines between those

3174
02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:30,080
disciplines

3175
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:33,600
are blurred to where you can cross-talk

3176
02:38:38,790 --> 02:38:35,520
so to speak very easily

3177
02:38:42,790 --> 02:38:38,800
you heard me talk about ghosts

3178
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:42,800
you've heard me talk about gravity

3179
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:45,120
with the same principles you've heard me

3180
02:38:49,510 --> 02:38:47,680
talk about the beginning of the universe

3181
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:49,520
you know all these different things

3182
02:38:55,030 --> 02:38:51,200
using the same concept

3183
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:55,040
same set of terminology like the example

3184
02:39:02,070 --> 02:38:58,240
that i gave about volcanoes

3185
02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:02,080
earthquakes and mountain formation

3186
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,840
instead of three separate things with

3187
02:39:07,670 --> 02:39:05,760
their own terminology

3188
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:07,680
the theory of plate tectonics has

3189
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:08,800
brought them all together

3190
02:39:13,910 --> 02:39:11,520
under one roof with a common set of

3191
02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:13,920
concepts and terminology

3192
02:39:20,469 --> 02:39:17,520
and that's what's lacking it it's

3193
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:20,479
it's just like well i was talking about

3194
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:21,280
where

3195
02:39:26,389 --> 02:39:24,560
the ufo that

3196
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:26,399
interferes with the operation of

3197
02:39:31,670 --> 02:39:28,640
electrical equipment

3198
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:31,680
nobody thinks the ufo is drawing energy

3199
02:39:37,910 --> 02:39:35,200
from your car battery to manifest

3200
02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:37,920
but in paranormal phenomena when the

3201
02:39:41,710 --> 02:39:39,520
same thing happens

3202
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:41,720
in the presence of disruptive

3203
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:43,840
electromagnetic fields

3204
02:39:50,309 --> 02:39:47,040
they think the spirit is drawing energy

3205
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:50,319
from your camera so it can manifest

3206
02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:53,439
but it's the same phenomena you see what

3207
02:39:57,349 --> 02:39:54,800
i mean

3208
02:39:59,590 --> 02:39:57,359
yes i do completely different thinking

3209
02:40:01,990 --> 02:39:59,600
completely terminology

3210
02:40:03,750 --> 02:40:02,000
and you know and the guy who's talking

3211
02:40:06,469 --> 02:40:03,760
about the ghost

3212
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:06,479
will say well you know uh you're talking

3213
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:08,640
about ufos that's something completely

3214
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:09,520
different

3215
02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:11,760
right you know when in fact it's the

3216
02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:15,200
identical flipping thing

3217
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:18,399
um you know so

3218
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:20,640
uh well yeah i don't know that that's

3219
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:23,200
gonna change anytime soon to be honest

3220
02:40:26,550 --> 02:40:25,760
you know but uh you know if if you are a

3221
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:26,560
person

3222
02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:28,960
uh out there that says i'm open-minded

3223
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,399
you're gonna try to draw these

3224
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:32,160
connections and kind of make it work for

3225
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:32,640
you

3226
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:35,439
and not to be limited by one field or

3227
02:40:42,070 --> 02:40:36,000
another

3228
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:42,080
admin you have to communicate it to

3229
02:40:46,830 --> 02:40:44,160
others

3230
02:40:47,990 --> 02:40:46,840
this is what what makes it extremely

3231
02:40:50,070 --> 02:40:48,000
difficult

3232
02:40:51,670 --> 02:40:50,080
because it's like what we've done in

3233
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:51,680
this interview there have been a number

3234
02:40:56,230 --> 02:40:53,040
of concepts

3235
02:41:00,150 --> 02:40:56,240
where i've had to take time to explain

3236
02:41:03,269 --> 02:41:00,160
all the background until

3237
02:41:05,830 --> 02:41:03,279
listeners can can follow me

3238
02:41:07,830 --> 02:41:05,840
to know what i'm leading up to and what

3239
02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:07,840
i'm about to say because if i set it up

3240
02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:18,070
so i have to actually share with others

3241
02:41:23,429 --> 02:41:21,359
what my background thoughts are and what

3242
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:23,439
the science is to bring them up to a

3243
02:41:27,429 --> 02:41:25,840
point where they can actually understand

3244
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:27,439
that i'm saying something other than

3245
02:41:33,590 --> 02:41:29,200
just gibberish

3246
02:41:36,070 --> 02:41:33,600
right well i hope that um you know

3247
02:41:37,429 --> 02:41:36,080
i basically was quiet enough for you to

3248
02:41:39,590 --> 02:41:37,439
keep talking and not

3249
02:41:40,790 --> 02:41:39,600
be too disrupted that's how i usually

3250
02:41:42,309 --> 02:41:40,800
like to talk to people because

3251
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:42,319
eventually they will come around and

3252
02:41:44,550 --> 02:41:43,760
give me the answers i'm looking for

3253
02:41:46,469 --> 02:41:44,560
instead of

3254
02:41:48,790 --> 02:41:46,479
constantly to interrupt so i hope this

3255
02:41:51,910 --> 02:41:48,800
was satisfactory for you

3256
02:41:52,389 --> 02:41:51,920
oh yeah it's great you know as a host it

3257
02:41:55,830 --> 02:41:52,399
must

3258
02:41:58,870 --> 02:41:55,840
you know i feel it's great if your guest

3259
02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:58,880
does all the heavy lifting right right

3260
02:42:02,230 --> 02:42:00,479
well especially when you start throwing

3261
02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:02,240
those terms at me and that i haven't

3262
02:42:06,230 --> 02:42:03,520
really researched

3263
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:06,240
in a great deal trying to not have it

3264
02:42:10,469 --> 02:42:07,120
have too many

3265
02:42:13,030 --> 02:42:10,479
stupid questions no well you know

3266
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:13,040
and then the opposite occurs when you

3267
02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:14,240
you may have had them

3268
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:16,960
where you get those uh uh you know bump

3269
02:42:23,830 --> 02:42:17,279
on

3270
02:42:27,510 --> 02:42:23,840
and they go yeah

3271
02:42:29,269 --> 02:42:27,520
oh right

3272
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:29,279
no that's definitely that's definitely

3273
02:42:34,389 --> 02:42:30,560
not you

3274
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:34,399
um okay oh so anyway uh thomas thank you

3275
02:42:38,870 --> 02:42:37,040
very much and everyone please check out

3276
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:38,880
thomas website again it's in the

3277
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:40,560
description box below

3278
02:42:45,670 --> 02:42:43,760
and um do you have any contact info on

3279
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:45,680
on your site so that if somebody does

3280
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:47,200
have a question maybe they could reach

3281
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:48,240
out to you or

3282
02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:51,840
yeah there is an email on my website

3283
02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:53,680
so please do if there's any follow-up

3284
02:42:57,910 --> 02:42:55,439
questions that uh

3285
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:57,920
you guys might have reach out to thomas

3286
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:58,880
i'm sure he would

3287
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:00,640
uh he would uh get to you when he has

3288
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:03,520
time so again uh thank you very much

3289
02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:08,399
i'm glad we did this and um so just uh

3290
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:10,240
i'm glad we finally reconnected like i

3291
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:10,880
said it's been

3292
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:13,840
six six years oh i talked to you once

3293
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:15,600
maybe three years ago and i can't

3294
02:43:19,269 --> 02:43:17,200
believe it's been that long

3295
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:19,279
yeah thank you for having me i really

3296
02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:20,240
appreciate it

3297
02:43:24,230 --> 02:43:22,640
anytime and thanks folks for putting up

3298
02:43:26,309 --> 02:43:24,240
with me

3299
02:43:28,070 --> 02:43:26,319
all right well thanks everyone for

3300
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:28,080
watching i appreciate it

3301
02:43:32,550 --> 02:43:30,640
uh check out thomas website i'm glad you

3302
02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:32,560
were able to join us for this friday

3303
02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:33,120
night

3304
02:43:36,950 --> 02:43:36,080
and stay tuned next week i should have

3305
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,960
some more

3306
02:43:40,070 --> 02:43:39,200
webcasts coming out and then another

3307
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:40,080
friday

3308
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:43,359
7 p.m show central time so thank you